On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 02:01:19PM +0200, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> I'll also propose another option, lets call it D:

not that it matters much (see below) but I think i had proposed this
on irc earlier :)

On Wed, May 07, 2025 at 02:39:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Gosh, this is all very complicated.

yes, it is. so thanks for writing this up.
 
> It seems anomalous that we (i) schedule binNMUs on each architecture
> separately but (ii) they must all be aligned.  This leads to suggest
> another option
>    E. Always schedule rebuilds on all arches, so they all
>       have identical bdates.
> (this may be quite hard or a bad idea for other reasons). 

I *believe* this is not done (always) because not all architectures always have
enough capacity...

>    F. Abolish binNMUs and just do no-change source-only uploads.
>       tag2upload might make this much easier...

(yes but we don't have that yet.)

> Anyway,

yes :)
 
> I think that means Chris's option D would work.  I have to say this
> addition of +1 second feels like a bodge to me, although I can't
> immediately think of a way it would go wrong other than merely
> confusing humans.  (If we go with this option we should maybe pick a
> larger value of 1 - aren't there some filesystems with >1s timestamp
> granularity?  2 might be better.)
 
and now I wonder again why S_D_E plus (offset multiplied by something)
is better than what we have or had, which is a new d/changelog entries
for binNMUs causing an entirely new S_D_E for those binNMUs?!?


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