On May 05 2002, Michel Lanners wrote:
> I've recently gotten a new HD for my TiBook (40 Gig :), which makes
> relatively loud noise when moving the head.

        What is the manufacturer of your HD?

        My iBook2 600 combo has a 20GB HD that is quite noise in the
        same situations. The manufacturer is IBM. OTOH, my Compaq has
        a Toshiba HD (if I'm not mistaken) and it is quite silent,
        especially compared to the iBook's (which, at first, I thought
        was defective).

> At first, it did that every five seconds, which, as you can imagine,
> is unsupportable after a few minutes.

        Indeed. The same reaction that I had.

> I've since tried to find what accesses the disk every five seconds, and
> come to the combination pmud with APM emulation/asapm.

        That's good. I didn't investigate what was happening, but I
        guess that I'll do so when I have some spare time.

> While we're at it, does anybody have other ideas to eliminate disk
> acceses? I've already done these:
> 
> - switch back to ext2 from ext3 (ext3 prevents the HD from spinning
>   down)

        I'm using ext3 (with noatime). I'll test it with ext2 to see
        the effects. But read below my comments on noatime.

> - install noflushd

        Did that already.

> - tune the bdflush parameters in /proc/sys/vm

        Well, I guess that its a good idea to fiddle with them also.
        Disabling the swap partition is also something that occured me
        under some circumstances.

> - remount with noatime while on battery

        I always use noatime and I don't seem to have problems with
        that. But I do notice that the HD spins down when I'm on
        battery, even though I'm using ext3.

> In particular, how about devfs? I'd suppose having devfs in memory
> saves the atime/ctime/mtime changes on the /dev FS nodes (which is
> metadata to the FS, right?)?

        Well, I do think that atime/ctime/mtime are metadata, but are
        they changed for device nodes? I thought that device nodes
        were special in respect to that (but I have never read any
        code to support my claim).

> Cheers, and thanks for any comments

        Ok, I know that I'm not helping, but I am just trying to see
        the similarities between our systems.


        []s, Roger...

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