Hi Frank Thanks a lot for your help!
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:28, Frank Murphy wrote: > > Aha, I see. But, hmm, this doesn't seem to be a laptop specific problem, > > no? I have to be honest, I don't understand the Mode_switch problem > > anyway. When using the stock settings, i.e. > > > > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > > Option "XkbModel" "macintosh" > > Option "XkbLayout" "de_CH" > > > > there's no Mode_switch at all. Not surprisingly, XkbRules xfree86 > > defaults to xfree86 for the keycodes (which maps keycode 64 to LALT), > > and uses macintosh(macintosh) as default geometry. > > But it seems that for Swiss keyboards, Mode_switch should be set (even for > desktop keyboards). That is done in the symbols files. Does adding this help: > > Option "XkbSymbols" "de_CH+group(switch)" Ahh, well, I did (and YES, I did deactivate my .Xmodmap first), but, uhhm, this has to be the so called make-fun-at-your-co-workers-option, no? ;) But serious, the effect was quite interesting. No keys except the number keys were working, not even the cursor keys, so I couldn't reach the shell history to invoke xmodmap. And, well, which key would have been supposed to be the Mode_switch? At least, alt didn't work either, I still could reach only the number keys (and only these).. > > I wonder if there's really a need for a laptop variant. What is the > > difference between a normal and a laptop keyboard apart from the lacking > > keypad? Are there any keys on a laptop keyboard not included on a normal > > keyboard (except the fn key)?? > > At least on my old US keyboard iBook, the Numlock key isn't a real key, but > instead triggers some hardware change to type only the numbers on the > secondary keypad. Therefore, the "real" Numlock key (on the keypad) shouldn't > set Numlock, but some kind of 'clear' instead. I don't know if there are > differences for a Swiss keyboard. Dunno, but I guess not?! How to test? -- Best wishes, and thanks for your help, Andi

