On Thursday 08 January 2004 12:24, somebody named christian funk inscribed this message: > > - reboot zapping the PRAM and the press option-command-o-f to boot > > into the OF, if it doesn't work try again, you want the OF settings > > before MacOS touches them > > Carful! This is likely not to work if your box defaults it's input- and > output-device to ttya.
Indeed, you probably don't want to do this. Macs (all of the pmac 7x00, 8x00, 9x00 series, I think, correct me if there are exceptions) will default to using the modem port for input and output, rendering your machine unreachable unless you have a serial terminal. >You'll need a two box setup to get the > "original" nvram default settings. But then again you may not need > them... you need the ones that work ;) Well, no, what MacOS does on these boxen (I know, I'm typing from one) is to reset the nvram completely - patches, boot device, etc. So all you need to do to get stuff reset is boot into MacOS. :^) I think the values are the same as default (i.e., post reseting the pram) for the [7x00|8x00|9x00] boxen. I think I heard someone say this is different for beige G3s? Also, I assume you found the NetBSD Model Support page (linked from http:// penguinppc.org/projects/quik)? I found the 'see also' section helpfull, click the 'What is OF and why do I care' link and scroll down - 'What can I do at the Open Firmware prompt?' and the corresponding Usefull Variables right after it are good things to have printed out once you get into OF. I hope I'm not duplicating anything here, but I found it useful. :^) Now just to be contrary (and sorry for jumping in this late :^) ), I got things to work fine with Apple's System Disk utility. I basically followed the instructions at http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/ and it worked. (That is, I got into OF and could manipulate anything else I needed to from there.) And having said all that, I'm still using BootX. :^) I couldn't get quik to boot a 2.4 kernel, only the default 2.2 and I finally gave up. Do keep everyone updated on progress, I'd dump BootX if I could. :^) NRH -- Some people around here wouldn't recognize subtlety if it hit them on the head.
