> On May 12, 2025, at 06:00, Damien Stewart <hype...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> 
> On 12/5/25 10:48 am, Ken Cunningham wrote:
>> Some feedback for others who might try this...
>> 
>> I started off by upgrading to firefox 138, which is the current default when 
>> you install or upgrade firefox, on my DualG5 with 3.5G Ram.
>> 
>> It opened, but there was no content in the windows, and none of the firefox 
>> menus would respond after a long time.
> 
> I can confirm this on my system. Which is has an R7 250 in it and because of 
> that lacks hardware 3d and 2d by the looks of it, so I need to rely on fbdev. 
> Firefox works a lot better by not crashing on startup. It opens up a window 
> but only has borders as inside content is blank. I also see it ignoring 
> menus. But the menu does pop up with the right side widget. Once of the 
> checkmarks turned on but the menu bar would not. It would not quit. I had to 
> kill it with kill. I didn't notice any unusually high cpu usage when I ran 
> top to check. From CLI it did not print any messages. But I could Ctrl-C it 
> to quit.
> 
> It's way better than Epiphany, which I thought was once a humble and trusted 
> browser, but one that now totally takes down my machine with a black screen 
> of death. However, I got that loading by disabling GLX in my xorg config, but 
> it complained that it couldn't load pages. So Firefox may rely GLX as well, 
> since it's so huge, and could just as easily do a takedown. However, I do 
> have another issue related to my GPU of choice, as my dmesg is full of GPU 
> lock up errors. System Monitor and Nautilus are also faulty. From research 
> this happens in the x86 world as well and no solution was found. Apart from 
> the GPU being faulty and needing replacement. But, the latest Debain with 
> xorg, is the only Linux install that has these issues. So xorg has some 
> issue. Possibly another endianism.
> 
> I expected LXDE to be better but it may be better to test MATE by the looks 
> of it. I had installed this and others. Just need to switch to it which isn't 
> as easy when you can't chose on login and wrestle with apt. :-)

I can choose the desktop manager on login. There’s a menu of the installed ones 
to choose from.

I’m using lightdm, I recall.

Ken



> 
> 
> --
> My regards,
> 
> Damien Stewart.
> 

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