On Wed, 2005-05-04 at 13:46 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Tue, 3 May 2005, Pascal Hakim wrote: > > On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 12:04:51PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > Sure. The easy thing is to have a wonderful anti-spam "policy" which does > not work and ask others to start chasing people to collect payment. > > That is not the way we were enforcing this policy in the past. The > policy was there *because* we had a way to enforce it. If we do not > have any way to enforce it anymore, we should abandon such policy.
Then file a wishlist bugs against www.debian.org and get them to remove it? > > > b) Be serious and prevent spam from reaching our lists *much* more > > > effectively. What we are doing to fight spam in the lists is > > > clearly not enough. > > > > What we are doing is mostly what the listmasters believe is appropriate. > > Unfortunately, what you, listmasters, believe is "appropriate" might > not be the same as users of the lists consider appropriate. Have you > ever asked people in the lists how much spam do they want to receive? > We're getting roughly the same amount of people complaining about lists being too restrictive as people complaining about the list not being restrictive enough. I figure that's about the good spot to sit in? > > I'm at the point, where I believe that having much stricter spam > > checking results in too many false positives, or causes our users more > > trouble than its worth. > > > > If there was a perfect solution to spam, we'd all be using it already. > > There isn't any Final Ultimate Solution to the Spam Problem [*], but that's > not an excuse to not improve filtering at lists.debian.org, where it can > be improved. For example: > > * Razor does not work properly yet (still receive messages in razor from > l.d.o) > * Pyzor does not work properly yet (still receive messages in pyzor from > l.d.o) There's a whole bunch of messages in the junk folder that were caught by razor. > * Are you already using greylisting? DSA seems to not like the idea of running a full DB on murphy. This restricts the kinds of greylisting we can do. This is something I'd like to move forward to, but will take a while. > * Are you already using the DCC? No. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
