Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:06, Anthony Towns wrote:
>> It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to >> commit time to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting >> neither praise, acknowledgement or, most importantly, any additional >> rights/priveleges in return. If that's you please mail me privately, >> probably at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Anthony, > I spend part of my time maintaining a few dozen Linux systems in a > variety of flavors. I see that Debian also maintains a few dozen > Linux systems[1]. There are people around who maintain hundreds > or even thousands of Linux systems. [questions snipped] I'm not sure this helps. The difficulty of administering sytsems depends mostly on the complexity and frequency of tasks needed rather than the number of systems. It can *easily* take longer to maintain a half-dozen machines than 500 depending on what the systems are used for. And a lot of public discussion of just what has to be done, very unfortunately, tends to devolve into debates about whether this or that should be done by people who aren't in a position to help one way or the other. Bikeshed painting is a very common phenomenon on public mailing lists. I'm grateful for Anthony posting a direct call for volunteers (and debian-devel-announce might be an even better place for such a call). I can't respond to it personally since I just picked up a Debian Policy delegation and don't yet know how much time I will have free. If you can, please do. Everyone involved in this has the best interests of Debian at heart. I firmly believe that. Everyone is trying to move the project forward as best they can, the best way to help is to share the load of the work that needs to be done, and the more people are involved in doing the work, the better the communication will get *naturally*. I don't think it serves any more purpose to get angry at people being frustrated than it does to be angry at the existing DSA team. What we need is to get more people involved, spread the load, and reduce the stress, tension, and lack of good will. Anthony's earlier messages on this thread didn't, to me, seem to be directly helping that. His most recent message was, again in my opinion, better. It provides some direction forward that isn't just rebuking people for being understandably frustrated and trying to break roadblocks by force of will. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
