Amaya dijo [Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 08:33:25AM +0100]: > I would also love to see what people like Biella Coleman would come up > with after studying "The DunkTank" effect.
Yes. That's the only way the "experiment" can actually become an experiment :) By doing a serious analysis, from as much a neutral and outside position as possible. > Why was there no such negative reaction back in the days where Ximian > hired Gnome developers to do their Gnome work? Why is this so different > in Debian, if Ximian's CEO was also the Gnome Project Leader? Why did > the rest of the Gnome Developers accept this situation without the > bitterness we've seen in Debian? There are many, many differences between our projects. Some that become obvious to me is that, in 2000, Miguel was not just the guy elected to be the single point of contact and to act as an abstract leader, but he was really the main coordinator for the Gnome development. Miguel has a strong, natural outwards personality, and he has always led the group he is in (or at least, where I have happened to meet him ;-) ). The leadership in Debian is completely in different story, and I don't mean by this to say that AJ is any less - When this whole mess began, I privately congratulated him, not because of a good or bad decision, but for having the guts to go forward with it and actually act as a _leader_. Of course, maybe we are too equal, so pushing to a controversial move is much too harder. AJ has been rated high on (at least my) radar of the DD meritocracy since I joined in, but still, the spike where he and the rest of the cabal^Wmost active members are is not such a peak as Miguel over most Gnome people. Besides that, while nobody in his right mind will deny that getting involved with enterprises has helped Gnome get more professional, it's also undeniable that the nature of the project is completely different. It's no longer a bunch of individuals, and although the Gnome Foundation is still separated from Novell, I know many people that left the Gnome development for bitterness because things were no longer done following the community's ways, but in a much more enterprise-driven fashion. Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

