On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 08:27:07AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Just leave Debian, like that, and who will give me back all those years > > and uncountable hours i have sacrificed to debian ? Or the actual money > > and time and equipement i have given to debian ? > > Funny thing about volunteers.. They tend to give their time willingly > without getting things in return. That's kind of the point. If you're
I actually did get something in return, pain and hurt and rejection. If i had gotten nothing in return, i would be happily coding for the best of debian, and we would all be happy. That is the problem. > not willing to volunteer, then don't. Doing volunteer work and then > expecting to be paid for it doesn't exactly fly too well with the people > organizing the work, especially when they're volunteers themselves. For > that matter, it comes across pretty poorly to damn near everyone I know. Well, i am sure no volunteers likes freely giving their time, and be handled like shit afterward, i know it happens in many volunteer organisation. The point is, there is no reason for me to leave debian, i still have much to contribute, there is no reason to not search a resolution to this issue, which is easy and not time consuming, and could be done easily enough if all party put their pride and arrogance aside, and say : Well, we acted badly, but the faults are shared, let's forget past hurts, and try positively to work together again. Is this so much to ask debian ? Really ? As an example of why this is a mess : 14:27:44 < Ganneff> svenl: would you *ever* consider something as "valid way out" thats not 100% what you want, ie "you all admit you have been wrong"? How funny, since This is exactly the discourse that Anthyony Towns, Frans Pop and Raphael Hertzof held to me : "you must first admit that everything is your fault". What is wrong in being a bit more humble, and recognizing that the fault is shared, and that if everyone involved showed a bit of good will, then it would be solved in no time. Show me a sign, and i will jump on it, and we will all be back to happily coding, but upto now, all my tentatives of going another way have been cruel deceptions, and the trust i had in debian has been wronged, and i have seen no real sign of anybody searching a resolution. So, i repeat, let's solve this issue in a fair and honest way, and everyone will be happy. Is this too much to ask ? Apparently so ... Saddened, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
