Patrick Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > - according to german legislation a public communication network can > deny acess only under certain circumstances > > - such circumstances are not pure dislike of person or opinion
I think this legislation is harmonised across the European Union by 2002/22/EC, 2002/58/EC, and others. Such circumstances include prevention of "malicious or nuisance calls" being sent over their network, which I think was the claim here. (They also include unsolicited direct marketing, national security, court orders, prevention or detection of crime, and so on.) I don't know whether or not it applies to OFTC. Even if it applies, before appealing to legislation, one should complete the network operator's complaints procedure. Did you complete the OFTC complaints procedure, which I think is run by their Ombudsman? [...] > What is the OFTC network. > What is SPI Inc. > Who are the network representatives of OFTC. > You end up with a short list of names who all are Debian Developers. That is true of some other organisations, but it does not give debian much direct influence over some of them. The available sanctions are blunt and will not resolve that situation with OFTC. So, these threads are just so much pain for DDs and an illustration of why we need better list management for all posters, not just DDs. [...] > weapons. And every Debian Developer who is throwing mud in my > direction should be aware in what context this happens. It would probably help that if context was linked in these complaints, such as References headers, archive http links, and so on. Especially in things like this IRC complaint, which I'm sure was discussed before. Regards, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

