On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 09:51:42AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > Before this thread goes much further, examine the context, please. > Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused:
Hi Ben, Just to make it clear, please don't take it as if I were recriminating something to you. My understanding is that this problem is about general perception and I don't think it's your fault in any way. > Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny > > Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non-free > madwifi-source now works with the earliest Eee models as well, > [...] > > My only error is that when I said "fully supported" I overstated the > case. Lenny will certainly "work with" all of the earliest models. I don't have an eeepc myself, but what I gather is that Lenny doesn't fully support them; it is Lenny + non-free which does (or otherwise you have no wireless). > Do you know what I'm feeling now, at a time when I should have been > enjoying the first major success of our project after pouring months of > our lives into it? Hurt. It wasn't my intention at all to hurt someone, so I said things in the kindest way I could, without getting personal. But you have to see both sides of things. When I saw that mail, the first thing I think is the press will pick it and announce to everyone that Lenny supports this hardware, with the implicit assumption that we have dropped our ideals and joined the non-free bandwagon (actually, this is still likely despite my reaction). The ideal to stand and defend freedom is the whole reason I care about Debian, so when I feel that its reputation is being damaged, I get hurt too. Anyway, I really appreciate your work on making eeepc's better supported in Debian. -- Robert Millan The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

