On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:41:40PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Ean Schuessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Some of you are probably saying "Eeee gads! Not accursed > > > proprietary social networks!". Some of us have friends who aren't > > > die-hard computer nerds and, yes, there is a world beyond > > > Advogato. Now shut up and go make your less nerdy friends give > > > money to Debian. > > > > No, I'm saying "use it if you want, but please try to keep external > > backups of all the supporter details and don't create much > > facebook-only content because facebook *do* delete people's accounts > > in an automated, arbitrary and self-contradicting way, so supporting > > them (as opposed to mining them) is not in the public interest." > > Indeed, well said. > > I also have difficulty following the OP correlating a walled-garden > one-way private club with “wider world”, or even with “less nerdy > friends”. > Facebook and Myspace are obviously not same as the recent identi.ca. Some of the walled-gardens are opening up their APIs which is a start but not on par with identi.ca's open service model and AGPL. But Facebook is not a small group of people as it includes several million from all over the world, so its not isolated like a 'private club' in the back of a bar/pub. So these venues/platforms/mediums provide an opportunity to advertise and fundraise like any other medium to draw people to and support our efforts at 'free as in freedom'. So I dont mind the attempt to use a medium to bring people close to freedom even though the advertising medium is not 'free'. The people use them mostly knowing about the untorid uses of private data like pictures, DOB, etc. for things like targeted advertising. And accept the comprimise for the gain of accessing their social network. AOL was once a walled-garden where everone was, things changed and that garden died. So I expect things to get better wrt social networking site. [ disclosure: I am on Facebook as are quite a large number of other DDs ] -k -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System | go to counter.li.org and | | `- http://www.debian.org/ | be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |_______ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed _______|
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