Russ Allbery <r...@debian.org> > More seriously, you really can't understate how much the project felt > generally burned by the huge Dunc-Tank controversy. I was one of the > people who thought it was a decent idea at the time, but the outcome was > far more disruptive than I think it was worth. I think an earlier post > from you mentioned that you didn't find a lot of good information on-line > about it. There is an article at: > > http://archive09.linux.com/feature/59300 > > which isn't awful, but which more importantly has links to a variety of > other articles and might be a good starting point to understand more about > what happened.
Not awful, but selective to fit its narrative and some links have succumbed to bitrot. Like it notes that I was hard-line on saying that the experiment failed, but I wrote elsewhere that there should be no shame in a experiment that fails to achieve its success criteria - some say we can learn more from failures than successes. That doesn't mean politicians should be allowed to redefine failed-with-lessons as successes, though. And yes, contrary to that article, a specific date (2006-12-04) was given. Was it a commitment? Depends if you think an external business can commit the debian project to anything. I think it's also worth reading Anthony Towns's last (AFAIK) summary of it, which I found using the search on http://planet.debian.net : http://www.erisian.com.au/wordpress/2007/06/17/dunc-tank-report-ideas That poses the key questions which the project probably needs to address before some clear, structured funding can happen, but like I noted in http://lists.debian.org/457fff10.nuzqcmr2iczfvdbr%25...@phonecoop.coop dunc-tank itself refused to collect any data to help answer them. I'm not sure we're any closer to answers yet. Hope that helps, -- MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op. http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer. In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Available for hire (including development) at http://www.software.coop/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1upg3g-0007ku...@bletchley.towers.org.uk