Hello El 21/12/19 a las 17:53, Jonas Meurer escribió: > Hello, > > Martina Ferrari: >> As I said today elsewhere, allyship, diversity, and inclusion are empty >> concepts when the bystanders -the people whose skin is not in the game, >> whose humanity is not being discussed- remain silent, or are more >> worried about tone. Do people actually care about making Debian a >> welcoming place for minorities? Then speak up, take risks, or stop >> pretending you care. And I don't mean sending requests to listmaster, I >> mean putting your body and privilege in the front line. > > Thanks for writing this mail, Tina. You're totally right with what you > wrote. It's frustrating to see that again and again a few very vocal > voices keep dominating these discussions with disgusting and transphobic > positions and language. > > While I do this a lot in other contexts, I usually don't take part in > political discussions on Debian mailing lists. That's partly because of > the language barrier, but mostly because I only have so much resources > and Debian isn't my main field of activism. > > Still, I have to admit that I feel kind of caught at ignoring behavior > in a community that I care about and that I feel part of. I guess this > also has to do with Debian being a mostly virtual community (read this > as "taking place on the internet"). Because I wouldn't think twice about > getting involved when something comparable would happen in one of the > non-digital communities I'm active in. > > So a least let me take this mail as an opportunity to express my > solidarity and support for everyone who is struck by (or fights against) > transphobic, sexist or otherwise discriminating behavior within (and > outside of) Debian. > > And - once again: thanks Tina for standing strong (at least that's my > perception). Also, thanks a lot to all of you who don't get tired to > oppose each and every bigoted discriminating statement on Debian mailing > lists. That's particularly directed to Tina, Rhonda, Russ, Steve, Enrico > and Colin. It's awesome to see you fighting the struggle for diversity > in Debian <3 > > In solidarity > jonas >
I feel the same as Jonas, and also agree with what Dato said [1]. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2019/12/msg00047.html I have no good words to say but I would like to express publicly my support to all the people facing discriminating or demeaning behaviour because of how they are, or because of their work/struggle to defend their identities. I don't want to feed disgusting and hurting threads, but I understand it's easy for me to ignore or "close", and not easy at all for the people being insulted/denigrated. I feel that their *reactions* should not be assessed the same as the former and triggering behaviour. Kind regards, -- -- Laura Arjona Reina https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona