On Sun, Jan 04, 2026 at 08:14:33PM +0100, Daniel Gröber wrote:
> Hi Bart,
> 
> On Sat, Jan 03, 2026 at 01:38:24AM +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
> > > Looking at the current delegation text this smells like a burnout job to 
> > > me
> > > (definition: high expectation + low control).
> > 
> > On the other hand, some volunteers might prefer a role of identifying
> > possible improvements without any (legal) responsibility on decisions and
> > prioritizing implementations.
> 
> Good point. However given how open Debian is anyone that wants to do this
> can already do this. Just talk to people! Post ideas to the debian-project
> list, maybe form an informal team and take it from there. No need for a
> delegation to get started.

It is hard to convince our fellow-DDs all over the project to erase personal
data from their systems without a formal delegation from the DPL.

> 
> I'd look at the delegation as helping lower Andreas' workload on the
> official side of things.
> 
> > >  - How many GDPR inquiries did the existing team receive in the last year?
> > >    (or month if that's easier to check)
> > 
> > I think it's much more than dealing with inquiries. There should be
> > people [...]
> 
> Are you volunteering? :-)

Maybe.

> 
> Its easy to say we should have people with motivation, but rather harder to
> make the people and motivation actually materialize.

It's why I wrote "maybe". :-)

For example, "carnivore" is likely still processing personal data in ways that
Debian does not really need, so must not have. I might some day find the time
to have a look at it. (I'm careful with making promises in volunteering work.)

> 
> What I'm proposing is to look at what the people doing the work need to be
> effective at doing the work: Is it know-how, is it delegated decision
> power, is it knowing the right people in the project? (etc).

Sounds like a useful task!

> 
> Once we know what it is they need such a delegation is much more likely to
> be effective.
> 
> --Daniel
> 
> PS: I did a quick search for context on the history of the team:
> 
>  - DebConf25 BoF - which has no recording or meeting notes :(
>    Did anyone reading this attend and can share a quick summary?
>    
> https://debconf25.debconf.org/talks/224-the-data-protection-team-status-and-future/
> 
>  - 2024 DPL election: Question to all candidates: GDPR compliance review
>    https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2024/04/msg00024.html
> 
>  - DebConf22 BoF - has a recording!
>    
> https://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2022/DebConf22/debconf22-215-state-of-the-data-protection-team.webm



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