Just noticed that this didn't get sent to the lists. Guess this leaves one design in two different colors (#6 and #7). I don't have a strong preference between the two.
--Adam Start weitergeleitete Nachricht: Datum: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:53:21 -0700 Von: David Mertz <me...@gnosis.cx> An: Adam <adam.schmalho...@gmx.de>, Paul Wise <p...@debian.org>, Yaroslav Halchenko <y...@debian.org> Cc: David Mertz <me...@gnosis.cx>, psf-trademarks <psf-tradema...@python.org> Betreff: Re: [psf-trademarks] [PSF-Board] may be a logo? > Dear Debian developers/designers, > > Unfortunately, after discussing it on the Python Software Foundation > Trademarks Committee, our unanimous opinion is that the use of the Python > logo as a tiled/distorted "fill" element for a larger Debian design is > dilutive and contrary to our trademark usage policy. > > In general, use of the Python logo should retain the shape intact, and where > possible the colors (but this latter is more flexible). Typically designs > that incorporate it have juxtaposed the Python logo next to some other shape > and/or words to indicate that connection of the two things, but radical > alteration of the shape infringes our trademark, and our need for due > diligence in enforcement. > > It is outside our scope to determine this, but one Trademarks Committee > member opined that this derivation was also a violation of Debian's trademark > rules, so you may wish to examine those anew as well in designing a different > composite logo. > > Yours, David Mertz > Chair, PSF Trademarks Committee > > > On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:42 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > See my reply to Adam below. > > > > I don't think we should approve using the Python Logo as texture > > for another logo. > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: [PSF-Board] may be a logo? > > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:40:20 +0200 > > From: M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> > > Organization: eGenix.com Software GmbH; http://www.egenix.com/ > > To: Adam <adam.schmalho...@gmx.de> > > CC: debian-python@lists.debian.org, Paul Wise <p...@debian.org>, > > p...@python.org, python-apps-t...@lists.alioth.debian.org > > > > Adam wrote: > >> Paul Wise wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > >>>> Do we have a logo for our Python-In-Debian effort(s) (was needing one > >>>> for a recent talk but failed to deliver in time)? What about > >>>> having one? I am not a designer and possibly lacking any taste, so > >>>> please do not judge wildly. What would be your choice among the > >>>> following 6: > >>>> > >>>> http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/pydebian-red_tuned/ > >>>> > >>>> ? choice 0 == do not like any > >> > >> Very nice logos. I favour #2. > >> > >> An alternative suggestion is #6 in the colors blue and yellow (let's > >> call it #6by). It is attached (changes done with Gimp's fill tool). > >> > >>> I wonder if that is an allowed use of the Python trademark though. > >>> > >>> A similar combination of the GNOME foot and the Debian logo is > >>> apparently not allowed: > >>> > >>> http://lists.debian.org/1309267090.5023.15.ca...@novo.hadess.net > >> > >> The Python Trademark Policy¹ states under "Derived Logos": > >> > >> | * Derived logos must always be sufficiently different from the Python > >> | logos to allow the community to tell the difference. For example, if > >> you | want to create a derived logo for a local Python user group, you > >> might | be able to insert an unaltered Python logo graphic into the local > >> | group's name in a way that does not cause confusion. But confusingly > >> | similar derived logos are not allowed. This includes entwining Python > >> | logos with other logos, or connecting them together in a confusing > >> | manner. Logos that simply change the colors or fonts are not allowed. > >> | > >> | * […] > >> | > >> | * Use of derived logos for user groups and conferences -- Allowed if > >> | used to refer to the Python programming language. > >> > >> So all logos should be fine. CCing the python-foundation so they correct > >> me if needed (and FYI). > > > > I'll forward this to the PSF trademark committee. > > > > FWIW: Your logo suggestions mix the Debian Logo with the Python > > one and change its shape. 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