On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> wrote: > On Friday, April 13, 2012 08:37:26 AM Sandro Tosi wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 23:35, Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:04:33 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 22:50, Scott Kitterman <deb...@kitterman.com> > wrote: >> >> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:20:04 PM Sandro Tosi wrote: >> >> >> To give a (fresh) example and what I meant above, you can try to >> >> >> answer this provocative question: Why Ubuntu has Python 2.7.3 since >> >> >> more than 2 days (even before it was publicly announced) while Debian >> >> >> is still stuck with a RC, FingTBFS on 4 archs version? >> >> > >> >> > Probably because Ubuntu is a day before final freeze for a release. I >> >> > virtually always upload stuff to Debian first where I'm the Debian >> >> > maintainer for a package, but there are legitimate reasons why in some >> >> > cases that's not the best way to go about it. >> >> >> >> exactly my point as in "that usually means there are different priorities >> >> when working for Debian over Ubuntu" >> >> >> >> > We all get busy with $DAYJOB every now and then and that's OK. >> >> >> >> funny how in this case the dayjob overlaps the "hobby", so I guess one >> >> could have achieved the best for both distro with minimal effort (as >> >> the changelog for previous syncs suggest) but decided to just go with >> >> one only. >> > >> > It's not that simple. Depending on the timing of various processes in >> > Debian/Ubuntu there can be a substantial (as much as a day) delay from >> > Debian upload to when a package can be synced into Ubuntu. When you're >> > only two or three days from a freeze, that can be unacceptable. >> >> I see; another point for having Debian maintainers whose main interest >> is making Debian the best distro. > > That or people in Debian with just a slight bit of perspective that it's not > the only thing that matters. There are good and valid reasons to upload to > Ubuntu first. There are times when people get busy with work. There are also > times when the only 'solution' available is a short term hack that's needed > for Ubuntu's time based release schedule that isn't appropriate to Debian's > approach of doing things right and releasing when ready. > > I'm not saying that there have never been delays that weren't ideal, but I > think in this case you're trying to make a point out of a small matter.
1 month and counting, and FTBFS fixed by a NMU. -- Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu) My website: http://matrixhasu.altervista.org/ Me at Debian: http://wiki.debian.org/SandroTosi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cab4xwxx-ou5-v2lv2aoq8+x8dvqa+rxj5gek+zjukslp0dx...@mail.gmail.com