On 2024-08-03 4 h 02 a.m., Matthias Klose wrote:
On 03.08.24 07:25, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
On 2024-08-02 20:40, Blair Noctis wrote:
to scale it out in an external source package
which is effectively going against Python upstream, allowing the thing to live
on, and people to say "it's still alive in Debian!"

Also, even python3.11 is still there. Sure someone needing something expunged
from 3.13 would be fine staying with 3.12?

The idea of having these libraries around for Trixie (and to remove them after the release) is to ease the 3.13 transition.

 From my preliminary analysis, there are more than 600 packages that use one of the stdlib that'll be removed in 3.13.

There's also the option to remove packages from testing and/or unstable. I assume, we'll see a lot of packages still using old modules getting removed from testing, once 3.13 becomes the default. It's also an option to remove those completely, if they are not maintained.

That is a lot of work and I doubt we'll have a successful transition without this temporary measure.

can we agree on a naming for the packaging, e.g. python3-zombie- <module>, so that we make it clear, that people are using obsolete code?

we do that for python3-zombie-imp already.

I like this a lot and I support this naming scheme.

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