* Lucas Nussbaum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080426 15:35]: > On 26/04/08 at 09:43 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > > Not true. I wanted to have it aged some more in unstable. As this had > > happened, dpkg now transitioned to testing... > > [...] > > I think one can argue if that bug is part of the Release Goal or > > not... > > [...] > > Freeze guidelines are not really up to discussion and I don't like > > that maintainers of key packages send the signal that they don't care > > about them...
> I must say that I'm a bit surprised (and concerned) by the communication > between the release team and the rest of the developers. Eh, sorry? The main task of the release team is coordinating the release prozess. Making up the freeze guidelines is one important part of it. We also publish them early and often. Releasing Debian can only work if (next to) all people involved follow the same planing (at least at large). Otherwise, things will start drifting apart, and much unnecessary work will be carried out etc. (This was what e.g. happened with Sarge and December 2003.) The release team reviews the good and bad parts of the release process early after release to learn for them in future. We also publish these minutes via mail - input from anyone is welcome, and that is the right time to adjust our ideas for the next stable release. However, if people start to ignore the guidelines of the release team, and claim that they are not making errors and are allowed to set their own guidelines, that cannot work. *Everybody* has special excuses why his package needs an excemption, and guidelines are there to prevent that. I'm quite happy that many developers understand that, and support releases of Debian. I would be happy if Raphael Hertzog would also support Debian releasing, and doesn't make up his own rules. (And sorry for saying so frank words, but that seems to be necessary.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

