Hi,

Le lundi 17 mai 2021 à 15:20 +0200, Jochen Sprickerhof a écrit :
> Hi Julien,
> 
> * Julien Puydt <[email protected]> [2021-05-17 09:01]:
> > I tried to create a testing sbuild and compile sagemath 9.2-2 with
> > it,
> > and it worked so unless I made a mistake in my setup, something
> > made
> > that bug go away...
> > 
> > Can someone independently give it a try?
> 
> I triggered reproducible-builds again:
> 
> https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/sagemath.html
> 
> Success: 40 tests failed, up to 200 failures are tolerated
> Success: 5 tests failed, up to 200 failures are tolerated
> 
> so not much changed comparing to two weeks ago and my conclusion
> still 
> holds:
> 
> * Jochen Sprickerhof <[email protected]> [2021-05-04 13:22]:
> > Success: 41 tests failed, up to 200 failures are tolerated
> > Success: 5 tests failed, up to 200 failures are tolerated
> > 
> > The 200 is set in debian/rules:
> > 
> > https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/sagemath/-/commit/6088e9f2abc7ae99a8d07760ceee6fb6aac7bb54
> > 
> > and sounds a little arbitrary. Sadly the state upstream seems not
> > to 
> > be much better:
> > 
> > https://github.com/sagemath/sage/tree/9.2
> > 
> > 13 failing, 17 cancelled, and 70 successful checks
> > 
> > (I did not look into them.)
> > 
> > So I think the question is rather if the test suite gives an 
> > appropriate view on the quality of the software. If it does, I
> > assume 
> > it is not appropriate for a Debian stable release. Contrary if we 
> > assume the test suite being broken, we could disable it completely 
> > rather then producing random FTBFS.

Well :

1) Upstream itself uses the testsuite in the sense of "shouldn't have
too many failing tests", and it still allows to detect when a build is
utterly broken, so we shouldn't disable it.

2) It's not an FTBFS, since the sources actually build to a set of
packages.

This points to lowering this bug severity and let sagemath go in
stable. Or at least not preventing it just for this reason.

JP

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