On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 09:28:13AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Michael Banck wrote: > > > So it seems somebody went forth with this, at least there is now a > > science-chemistry package I never heard about before. So far, I > > understood the nice task web pages as just some aggregation of packages > > based on debtags or other criteria, and was not aware they actually > > reflect some real task package (probably because I was too busy with > > real life to properly pay attention to debian-science over the last > > months). > > Well, to make things clear: the science-chemistry package is not > really related to DebiChem. It is rather a workaround the fact that > there are not yet any DebiChem tasks packages available. You mentioned > that you was to busy to follow all these threads here. My arguing for > a general Science CDD was that we try to collect science related packages > somehow in these meta packages even if we know that some more fine grained > categorising would be needed. We just want to give those experts like you > an initial home until there are enough people to care for a specific CDD > that works on the packages of the actual science. Chemistry is the only > field were we just have this situation that there is a strong packaging > team around and we could talk about a separate CDD.
Ok. > > Now the question is how to go from here. Personally, I have the feeling > > the easiest way would be for the debichem team to maintain the > > science-chemistry package similar as the debian-med team seems to do for > > most biology packages. > > Well, my idea would rather be that you might work on meta packages named > chemistry-<subfield_1>, chemistry-<subfield_2>, ... Ok, good. > > Otherwise, how are we going to request changes to the task package? > > Just change > > > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cdd/projects/science/trunk/debian-science/tasks/chemistry?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 > > Or in the case of separate DebiChem maintained meta packages just create > > http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/cdd/projects/debichem > > > Should we file wishlist bug reports? > > I would prefer if you would join the CDD team on alioth. I've requested to be added to the cdd alioth project now. > > Also, I am not sure all possible chemistry packages make sense as being > > part of some meta-package - e.g. we got several 2D chemistry structure > > editors (even several for GTK), so it might be best to choose one or two > > to be installed by default and have the others available to the user > > otherwise (through debtags or maybe some 1-click-install link on the > > task overview web page). > > The meta packages can feature Recommends and Suggests - so you probably > want to recommend the more important packages (in a potential > chemistry-structureeditors metapackage if you like my plan above or > just in science-chemistry). Just suggest the less important packages. > The tasks web pages do not yet implement the feature to separate between > Recommends and Suggests - this is on top of my todo list for DebConf. > So you can expect to have this visualised on the tasks pages at end > of August. OK. > > In any case, I don't want to spread too much stop-energy here - the > > whole Debian Science thing seems to lift off nicely and gain momentum! > > Yes - I'm really happy about this. But as I said I would regard a fruitful > cooperation between DebiChem maintained specific meta packages and Debian > Science just profits from your work by including the meta packages like > it is done in > > http://cdd.alioth.debian.org/science/tasks/biology.html > > which shows the second missing feature in the tasks generating pages - > there the meta package dependencies should be resolved nicely. > > IMHO the best thing you could do is to categorise all available packages > that are interesting for working in the field of Chemestry and I would > volunteer to wrap the meta package stuff around to give you a kick start. OK, I'll try to look into this in the near future. thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
