Tirsdag 31 mai 2011 18.35.32 skrev Yngve Inntjore Levinsen : > Mandag 23 mai 2011 18.08.32 skrev Steffen Möller : > > Hello Yngve, > > > > On 05/23/2011 04:42 PM, Yngve Inntjore Levinsen wrote: > > > On Monday 23 May 2011 14.19.44 Steffen Möller wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> On 05/23/2011 01:30 PM, Yngve Inntjore Levinsen wrote: > > >>> On Monday 23 May 2011 12.29.15 Gürkan Sengün wrote: > > >>>> That sounds fantastic, do you already have ready packages that I could > > >>>> test? > > >>> You can test the ROOT packages which we distribute from CERN > > >>> (unofficially) here: > > >>> > > >>> http://cern.ch/lcg-heppkg/debian/ > > >>> > > >>> I assume Lifeng have used similar packaging scripts (and his efforts to > > >>> get them into proper Debian channels are highly appreciated!). > > >> I just read through those pages. You mention source and binary packages, > > >> packaging for sid, > > >> explained backports, reprepro, reads all very nice. > > >> > > >> Have you considered sharing your 'debian' folders with the Debian science > > >> repository? There is no need to upload all the program code. And you do > > >> not > > >> even need to have anything ready to be uploaded. This way you would share > > >> you insights on how to compile on the various platforms through sharing > > >> the > > >> build instructions. This should also allow to work with Lifeng together > > >> on those > > >> packages and everyone would feel exceptionally well about those, even > > >> though your support would remain not to be official. You can e.g. use > > >> README.Debian for a disclaimer. > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> > > >> Steffen > > > Hi Steffen, > > > > > > I did not start this project, Axel Naumann and Kevin B. McCarty did. > > > Since Kevin left the game I took over the Geant4 packaging (according to > > > best efforts of course, I cannot give guarantees on the quality of my > > > packaging from my level of expertise). People are more than welcome to > > > download packaging scripts and suggest improvements/report bugs of > > > course. The reason we keep it internally at CERN is, as explained, > > > because of licensing problems and similar. > > > > > > I have not considered sharing the debian folders with Debian Science. I > > > currently do not have much time on my hand to work on this, and I would > > > expect that some quality control would have to be done etc (actually the > > > latest Geant4 patch does not compile at the moment and I did not have > > > time to fix). You are all free to download the sources using "apt-get > > > source" of course, and I will be happy to try to explain what I have > > > done. I am unsure if I understand your question though, you mean to give > > > you the link of the folders from the server, or is there some "formal" > > > way to publish the packaging scripts without the source code? I have no > > > objection to distributing the packaging scripts (the respective authors > > > would have to agree first), but the sources like CLHEP and Geant4 have > > > difficult licensing so from what I understand we cannot distribute the > > > sources outside CERN. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Yngve > > > > my field is computational biology but once helped to get Christian's > > ROOT packages into the distribution when I was visiting Copenhagen more > > frequently. In the subversion repositories it is considered good style > > to only publish the debian folder, no source code. That should be > > retrieved via the instructions in the debian/watch file or the > > get-orig-source target in debian/rules or from the information in the > > debian/copyright file. That debian folder is commonly GPLed and easily > > comaintained, though this may differ if CERN has some policy I am not > > aware of when you started it. With git, there is no technical > > requirement but there it is common practice to indeed upload the source > > code in a separate branch. I dislike that immensely, but nobody seems to > > care about my aversion, so there are just a limited number of packages > > that I co-maintain with git. > > > > I would not mind apt-get sourcing and uploading the debian folders from > > there. But this would make sense only when you also use them. The > > quality does not matter for a start. Just say that it does not > > build/run. If the community cares then it will be fixed with or for you. > > If not, then not. I could talk you through the process of manually > > building with the debian folder in subversion and/or on how to use > > svn-buildpackage for some package that you feel more comfortable with. > > The redistribution of the binaries is a very different issue from the > > sharing of packaging/build instructions. And to have only the latter for > > some packages will still be helpful as an open invite to the community > > to contribute. I blogged about this at > > http://debianmed.blogspot.com/2011/04/debian-med-individuals-expertize-and.html > > > > Many greetings > > > > Steffen
Dear Debianizers, I just successfully uploaded the package instructions I am using for Geant4 to git.debian.org under Debian-science (I hope). The package does not at the moment build successfully with the recent version of Geant4, but after suggestion from Steffen I still upload it. Any fixes are most welcome, I am by far not an experienced packager, and have just maintained this package according to best efforts. One of my problems have been lack of time. Geant4 takes a long time to compile, and for every fix I try I need several hours to test (is there a way to do some kind of "build --continue" so that the packaging does not have to start from scratch?). Essentially I do not have time left after a few trials. If anyone manages to get it building again it is of course no problem for me to make it available on our unofficial server. I know several people use these builds (learned this the hard way when I broke the packages at one point), so I know any patches/improvements/help are welcome not only by me! Let me know if I made any mistakes or caused problems during the upload. Cheers, Yngve
