On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 12:36 Mo Zhou <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Tille,
>
> Is there any COVID-19 package using pytorch blocked due to its absense?
>
> A good news is that I've managed to strip the whole third_party/
> directory of src:pytorch, and started to forward my patches to upstream[1].
> When all my modifications entered the upstream repo, I'll be quite
> confident that our src:pytorch package can enter the archive without
> any (annoying) embedded sources [2].
>
> What I'm doing now is to wait for the upstream to merge my commits, and
> for the ftp-masters to accept my NEW dependency packages.
>
> In that sense, I'd like to take the COVID-19 shortcut to pass NEW
> quickly, if any COVID-19 related package needs pytorch.
>
> --- According to my status page
> https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=lumin
> these are the NEW dependency packages:
>
> fp16
> fxdiv
> gloo
> onnx
> psimd
> pthreadpool
>

Go ahead and add them to
https://salsa.debian.org/med-team/community/2020-covid19-hackathon/-/wikis/NEW-Requests



> I'll start to re-debianize src:pytorch from scratch when all of my
> commits had been upstreamed.
>

Any reason to not add the removed files/folders to the Files-Excluded
stanza of debian/copyright and repack the source while you wait?


> --- all of my on-going work are publically available:
> https://salsa.debian.org/deeplearning-team
> https://github.com/cdluminate/pytorch (messy, not rebased yet)
> The links to my PRs can be found on [1]
>
> [1] https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/issues/14699
> [2] Finally, we will have a modern deep learning framework in the
>     archive. It's better than having nothing even if I'm working on the
>     cpu-only (free) version.
>
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 10:06:12AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > Hi Mo,
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 02:46:06AM +0000, Mo Zhou wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 11:49:07AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 07, 2020 at 08:56:45AM +0100, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote:
> > > > > tensorflow 1.10 was packaged in experimental, but with reduced
> performance,
> > > > > and was removed because this was considered not worth it:
> > > > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=935769
> > > >
> > > > Ah I simply forgot this.  Thanks for refreshing my mind.
> > >
> > > After that I tried to refresh the packaging and uploaded tensorflow 2.0
> > > to the NEW queue. The ftp-master complained about the embedded snapshot
> > > version of Eigen3. Ftp-masters are not convinced even if I said
> > > tensorflow FTBFS against the version shipped in our archive, and it
> > > could waste lots of my time and energy to patch the related code.
> >
> > I can understand your feeling.  I've re-read the discussion[1] about
> > including eigen3 into the tensorflow source.  The most promising
> > statement was given in
> >
> >
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/debian-science-maintainers/2020-March/079169.html
> >
> >    Sean Whitton spwhitton at spwhitton.name
> >    Tue Mar 3 04:04:52 GMT 2020
> >
> >    Rejected per your request, but from my point of view this discussion
> is
> >    not over -- Policy 4.13 says that packages *should* not use
> convenience
> >    copies of code, not that they *must* not.
> >
> >    Thank you for all your work on uploading useful ML packages.
> >
> > At first: Thanks also from me!
> >
> > >From my point of view that is not a lost case so we should really try
> > again.
> >
> > > I was so angry at that time so I deleted my name from the maintainers
> > > and wrote the git message "I'm dropping this burden.".
> >
> > Well, sometimes personal feelings are dominating our actions.  I hope we
> > could form some real team around this to spread the technical as well as
> > the organisational burden.
> >
> > > So another kind notice for whoever is willing to take over tensorflow:
> > > also be prepared to fuss with ftp-master.
> >
> > I need to admit that I'm absolutely happy about ftpmaster.  They are
> > currently *extremely* supportive to our COVID-19 hackathon and > 30
> > packages made it from upload to unstable in less than 24 hours!
> >
> > Since I consider it a "promising time" to reach a lot for deep learning
> > tools in Debian which are frequently used in those tools to hunt down
> > COVID-19 I'd like to call for help here for trying again to get
> > tensorflow in - this time even with the Python3 module.
> >
> > Lumin has written an own build system for the C++ library since he has
> > found out that the upstream build system is not usuable for Debian.
> > Regarding the Python3 module he said that its not simply a matter of
> > adapting his build system but "significantly extend" it since the python
> > building process is much more complicated than the process for C++.
> >
> > Any takers for this task?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> >        Andreas.
> >
> >
> > [1]
> https://alioth-lists.debian.net/pipermail/debian-science-maintainers/2020-March/079054.html
> >
> > --
> > http://fam-tille.de
> >
>
>

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