Didier, My apologies for my wording - it is quite common to link america to USA when speaking - i'm not the only person who does it, most people do. Of course Canadians, Mexicans et al are not US Citizens and my comments were not meant to encompass those nationalities. A rather interesting thing comes to my mind:
I remember reading an article around a month ago about Mexico taking the US to the world court in the Hague over 3 mexican nationals on death row - these mexicans were not read their rights on arrest, nor were provided with legal representation within the initial 72 hours - which they are entitled to - this is under the Geneva convention (well that is what the mexican government is arguing). Now interestingly, the Hague has asked for US government to adjourn the deaths of 3 mexican nationals that are rumoured to be killed in the next 2-3 months (from the date of the article) pending a full decision by the world courts. The US governments response? "we'll think about what we're going to do". That is just blatant elitism by the powers that be in the US, and another example of their disregard for decisions made by world bodies (example, UN, world court...). Now if other countries were disregarding it, the US would cry foul. I can think of an example as well - Iraq - failing to comply with the UN resolution. But it's OK for the US not to comply...hypocrisy? Yes. This is what makes the US policy and government so hated amongst the world. As another example - the Australia government has recently called for the expulsion of an Iraqi diplomat on grounds of "spying". Well...colour me *pink* but it's quite a common thing that goes on world wide. The Australian government will not provide any proof of spying, and has now admitted that the US government asked Australia to expel Iraqi diplomats. Not exactly a peaceful way of dealing with people I think. And very provocative. For that matter, the US has had CIA operatives etc operating within Iraq for the past 3 months! And it has come to light that Australian troops have been active on Iraqi soil for the past 3 months as well! Of course both governments deny it - the worrying aspect is that the Australian government has said it would not commit troops to a war in Iraq unless it was given UN powers to do so. Another lie. It's ok to lie to your people, cos if you're the government you can do what you want. I put money on it that people just "disappear" if it's convenient for a government. And i'm not being paranoid here. It happens in the US, it happens in Australia. It's called a conveniency factor. Dave W Pastern -----Original Message----- From: Didier Caamano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 2:05 PM To: [email protected]; David Pastern Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic Just to think about: Since when the people who lives in the United States are Americans, since when the US = America. So far as I know, I leave in the American CONTINENT, I didn't born in the US, and I don't live there either, but I'm a fucking american to, cos I live in the CONTINENT of America. Canadians are americans to, Mexican as well, the same happen with Nicaragua, Panama, and so on. Why just the US? Aren't the people who lives in Europe = Europeans? or people who live in Africa = Africans? That's all I have to say about, have a nice day everyone. Didier.

