From: Jurij Smakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 00:38:00 -0400 (EDT)
> In fact, Debian is actively working on resolving this situation. Keep defending yourselves. This was a disaster regardless of the technical reasons or details of the situation. No user wants to hear a story, they want their systems to work, and developers do too. I don't want to hear a story either, because all I see are user's systems not working and nothing that can be done about it at this time. That's why many people are disappointed with the way the latest Debian stable release turned out. That's why many developers don't want to work on Debian any more, and want to move on to other distributions where it's not politics madness all the time. I'm not making this up, people email me all the time telling me they've finally had enough of Debian and intend to move on to put their energy somewhere deserving of it. Dismembering drivers so that they are non-functional, making it literally impossible to get a _one line_ timer chip probing bug fix for sparc64 into the Debian kernel tree _two months_ leading up to the stable release, among other things... Yeah keep this kind of stuff up and Debian has a very bright future. Because of the _diabolically stupid_ kernel change policies, I couldn't even help fix bugs in the kernel that were showing up in sparc64. It would have been a total waste of my time to submit any bug fix patches, because nothing was being allowed into the kernel. It's so unbelievable, I feel like I'm writing fiction when I recount it. This policy didn't make the stable release better, or go out more quickly. Instead, it turned this Debian release into a complete joke and ended up pissing off a lot of very capable and talented people who wanted to improve the release, yet couldn't because their hands were tied. It's all the stupid politics. Debian can either use this as a lesson and learn, or the Debian folks can decide instead to continue sitting around trying to justify what happened with this argument or that argument. You decide. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
