Bruce,

You are right, that was getting off-topic.  I take your point and won't
mention other evil distro's, again :-).

Cheers,

Chris.

On 27/07/07, Bruce O'Neel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> With the note that this is getting quite far from debian-sparc's purpose
> in
> life :-)  maybe after this note the conversation should move to the netbsd
> sparc or openbsd sparc lists.
>
> FreeBSD doesn't run on 32 bit sparcs, only 64 bit ones.
>
> Both OpenBSD and NetBSD run on sun4m systems just fine, even including
> the SS5/170.  This system, btw, is quite fast for its power consumption.
>
>
> NetBSD does SMP, OpenBSD does not.   They both work fine on SuperSparcs,
> SuperSparc IIs, and Hypersparcs.
>
> With NetBSD it seems that pretty much any mix of CPUs that can get up to
> the
> ok prompt will boot and run.  Maybe not well, but will work.
>
> NetBSD can cross build, so, if you have a faster system you can build
> NetBSD for sparcs on it quickly and then just run on the sparc.  OpenBSD
> thinks crossbuilding
> is evil and will not do it.
>
> OpenBSD comes as a more complete system than NetBSD.  NetBSD is really
> bare
> bones as to what's out of the box.  OTOH, NetBSD installs very fast.
>
> The OpenBSD folks are very very concerned about security.  Out of the box
> it's likely to be the most secure.
>
> cheers
>
> bruce
>
> ----- Message d'origine -----
> De: "Chris Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:59:46 +0100
> Sujet: Re: Re: Sparc32 systems and power consumption
> À: "Bruce O'Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Ludovic Courtès" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [email protected]
>
> >Bruce,
> >
> >My knowledge of *BSD is slim (to say the least).  I have a dual processor
> >SS20, which distro would you recommend (Open/ Net/ Free), given that
> >GNU/Linux support looks like it is on it's way out?
> >
> >Many thanks.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Chris.
> >
> >Many thanks,
> >
> >Chris.
> >
> >On 27/07/07, Bruce O'Neel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have recently run OpenBSD on number of Sparc32 systems and it runs
> fine.
> >> No SMP though.
> >>
> >> Right now I have one SS20 running with a Dual 142 and a Dual 100, with
> >> NetBSD
> >> 3.1.  It runs well.
> >>
> >> I also have another SS20 that until a few days ago was running either
> >> Dual 180s, or a 180 and a 200.  This was also under NetBSD 3.1.  I've
> >> switched
> >> this to a 85mhz SuperSparc II and a 60mhz SuperSparc for testing, still
> >> running
> >> the same NetBSD 3.1
> >>
> >> The only change I've found to make things reliable is that you must
> >> increase
> >> NMBCLUSTERS.  I've made mine to 4096 from 256.  Otherwise a lot of
> input
> >> net
> >> traffic will hang the networking stack.
> >> http://www.netbsd.org/docs/kernel/index.html#mclpool-limit
> >>
> >> cheers
> >>
> >> bruce
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Message d'origine -----
> >> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ludovic Courtès)
> >> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:50:31 +0200
> >> Sujet: Re: Sparc32 systems and power consumption
> >> À: "Bruce O'Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >>
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >"Bruce O'Neel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> As a result I've done some power measurements on them in order to
> find
> >> the lowest
> >> >> power system that will do what I need.
> >> >
> >> >Interesting!
> >> >
> >> >> SS20/Dual 100 hypersparc    75watts
> >> >> SS20/180 Hypersparc         77watts
> >> >> SS20/Dual 55 hypersparc     80watts
> >> >
> >> >[...]
> >> >
> >> >> SS20/133 hypersparc         85watts
> >> >> SS20/200 hypersparc         90watts
> >> >> SS20/Dual 90 hypersparc     90watts
> >> >> SS20/Dual 142 hypersparc   115watts
> >> >
> >> >These are all ROSS RT62[56] modules, right?
> >> >
> >> >Can you tell us which version of NetBSD successfully runs with these
> >> >configurations, especially the SMP ones?  Does the latest NetBSD
> support
> >> >some of these configurations?
> >> >
> >> >I vaguely remember reading reports saying that roughly no current OS
> >> >(including Solaris) is able to handle them correctly, especially in
> SMP
> >> >mode, so that would be an improvement.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >Ludovic.
> >> >
> >> >
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