On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:36 PM, u60 spitfire <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just signed up for this mailing list; had spent a good amount of time
> over the last week getting my Ultra 60 up and running again.  It's
> mostly OK...heh...execpt the part about having to reprogram the darn
> NVRAM every time I turn it on.
>
> I got jessie installed (Didn't get far in the stable release; first
> thing I did was try to open iceweasel and it hit a bus error --
> unaligned mem access maybe).  Working on getting the framebuffer going
> and whatnot now, went to the Debian forums and figured I'd try this
> mailing list after no responses there.
>
> After checking the posts for the last few months (only a handful!),
> they seem all about "Hello....anybody out there using/maintaining
> this?"  or "Hey if anyone's using driver X y'all need to maintain it
> yourself 'cause you're the only one using it", heh.
>
>
Linux on SPARC is very niche. Think of yourself as...frontiersmen. Consider
the cases though: you go to Oracle.com and cheap server is $20K. So you can
either use:

a) 100% supported Solaris 11.1, 24x7 phone support, deep virtual machine
support, apps/libraries optimized for the HW, etc.
b) Linux, which may or may not recognize your disk controller and may panic
while booting the kernel on really new machines.


> So, realistically*, what's the deal?  Any point in trying to get this
> to work or should I cut my losses now and move to some other
> distribution or OS?  I had thought that maybe there was some interest
> in the architecture since OpenSPARC was published/available for some
> time.  Anyhow.
>

I think Debian/sparc is probably one of the better distributions for SPARC,
but it can be quite rough, yeah. I run it and I don't have too many
problems. I run it on an Ultra 80, E420R (Ultra 80 but with diff case IIRC)
and a Blade 2500. Neither gives me problems, but running Sun-branded
components is really hard -- Sun was never very forthcoming with HW specs
and even if they had now, there would be little interest in pre-2000 HW to
actually fix the drivers. You can try Solaris 10 if you have a lot of
memory, but you're going to need to customize it, because for playing
around, you probably don't need all of the stuff it installed.

I personally enjoy Linux on SPARC more than Solaris on SPARC because I can
mix cheap PC components in the PCI slots to get some flexibility, so long
as it isn't critical for booting the system [e.g. disk controllers]. I ran
an Ultra 10 with an NV GeForce4 for example and was able to play Quake III.
Not all drivers work that well though, and I've filed a few bugs and other
times just written off the driver as "meh" (for example, some SPARC sound
drivers -- why bother if you can replace with $10 PCI sound card?)

So I guess, I'd say stick with Debian. I think your experience with the
Ultra 60 should be pretty decent overall, though if you need a new NVRAM
battery, yeah, going to suck a bit. :)

If you're having some issues, posted here, and I missed it, I'm sorry. I
try to help when I can. Please let us know what they are and let's see if
we can't work them out.

Patrick


> Advice appreciated in advance.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
> *Yes, I'm not being terribly realistic running anything on this box to
> begin with.
>
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