Your message dated Mon, 28 Jul 2025 09:54:04 +0100
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and subject line Re: Bug#1108542: openssh-server: Debian Trixie: bad dependancy
with systemd*
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Package: openssh-server
Version: 1:10.0p1-5
Severity: important
Dear maintainers,
It seems that on package openssh-server, there is now one dependency
with systemd on Debian Trixie (release 13).
This feature is not compatible with one target running sysvinit-core
in place of systemd.
I have Debian from release 7 to 13 (!) without systemd with sysvinit
and of course with openssh-server package, all runs fine without any issue.
Please find my configuration... (Target on armhf odroid HC1 into one
LXC container)
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ cat /etc/debian_version
13.0
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description: Debian GNU/Linux 13 (trixie)
Release: 13
Codename: trixie
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ LC_ALL=C apt policy systemd
systemd:
Installed: (none)
Candidate: (none)
Version table:
257.6-1 -1
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian trixie/main armhf Packages
252.36-1~deb12u1 -1
90 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian bookworm/main armhf Packages
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ LC_ALL=C dpkg -l |grep -v ii
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
|
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version
Architecture Description
+++-==============================-===================================-============-================================================================================
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ LC_ALL=C dpkg -l |grep sysvinit
ii sysvinit-core 3.14-4
armhf System-V-like init
ii sysvinit-utils 3.14-4
armhf System-V-like utilities
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$
When launching following command into one Ansible task in automatic
mode, so that y am sure that my target is never running systemd,
(idempotent) then following action is done and openssh-server is
removed, therefore no more possible to connect to target (!)
ansible@vn-firewall-110:~$ LC_ALL=C sudo apt remove --purge systemd*
Note, selecting 'systemd-standalone-tmpfiles' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-oomd' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-container' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-repart' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-timesyncd' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-userdbd' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-tests' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-standalone-shutdown' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-sysusers' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-ukify' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-journal-remote' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-bootchart' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-netlogd' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-dev' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-tmpfiles' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-cryptsetup' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-boot-efi' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-boot-tools' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-homed' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-resolved' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-coredump' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-boot' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-zram-generator' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-standalone-sysusers' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-shim' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-sysv' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-cron' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-zram-generator:any' for glob 'systemd*'
Note, selecting 'systemd-standalone-tmpfiles' instead of 'systemd-tmpfiles'
Package 'systemd-shim' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-resolved' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-cron' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-sysv' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-container' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-ukify' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-cryptsetup' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-coredump' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-bootchart' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-timesyncd' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-boot-efi' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-boot-tools' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-repart' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-zram-generator' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-homed' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-userdbd' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-boot' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-dev' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-journal-remote' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-oomd' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-standalone-shutdown' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-standalone-tmpfiles' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-tests' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'systemd-netlogd' is not installed, so not removed
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
libwtmpdb0 ncurses-term
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
REMOVING:
openssh-server* systemd-standalone-sysusers*
Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 0, Removing: 2, Not Upgrading: 0
Freed space: 3131 kB
Continue? [Y/n]
Best regards
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-- Jean-Marc LACROIX () --
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--- Begin Message ---
On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 11:27:24AM +0200, Jean-Marc LACROIX wrote:
Thank you very much for your suggestion to never remove systemd*. I've
added the exact list of dedicated "systemd" packages, making it easier
to manage, to my Ansible YAML list.
It works perfectly.
Good, thanks. Closing this bug.
For my own understanding, could you confirm that
"systemd-standalone-sysusers" is a recent Debian package, built on
Debian Bookworm , and not available on old Debian release. (< 9).
Therefore, i must make some trivial code to manage this feature on old
Debian release ?
Yes, systemd-standalone-sysusers is a new package as of Debian 12
(bookworm).
Regards,
--
Colin Watson (he/him) [cjwat...@debian.org]
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