(Update, adding "-user" in four places to correct & clarify.)
--- Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think both would be best :-) i.e. more people helping the testing > group, and a new list for people who are running testing/unstable and > asking questions on debian-user. I agree. > Yes, we need more people to help do the work of the testing group, things > like trying out the testing versions and trying to find problems to get > things ready for general release. And to that end, I did my first Woody > install from scratch using Woody boot floppies this week! > > I think tluxt's idea was more to do with those users who are not > necessarily specifically looking to be a tester, but are just trying to > use Woody on a day to day basis. Exactly. > There are probably quite a lot of people > in this category, who wouldn't necessarily be all that welcome on > debian-testing with the nth question about getting soundcards working (and > your comment on co-opting seems to agree with that). > > However, I think there could well be an advantage in having a seperate > -user list. If I look back over the last few of days in debian-user, I > see several threads about testing/unstable for sound, and a couple for X > windows and desktop environments. Now, I was thinking: people who are in > the testing group and package maintainers who do not want to monitor > debian-user may be prepared to monitor a -user list just for > testing/unstable, which is what they're concentrating on in their work. > And people who are searching the list archives for questions about user > problems in testing will not need to keep wading through all the other > questions in debian-user which only apply to stable. And people runnig > stable will not be confused by all the traffic that does not apply to > stable at all. A great improvement over the current stuation! :) > Maybe if there was such a new list, it would be a great place to give > regular plugs for the testing group :-) ======================================================================== In thinking about the name for this list, I think it should be for people using the sw currently in the testing and unstable distributions (unless it would be better to make a separate list for each of those cases). Therefore I now propose the following list name possibilities: debian-testing/unstable-user debian-testunst-user debian-TestUnst-user debian-tu-user debian-TU-user debian-woody/sid-user debian-woodysid-user debian-WoodySid-user debian-ws-user debian-WS-user Unless there are two lists, like: debian-testing-user debian-unstable-user or debian-woody-user debian-sid-user ------------------------------------------------------------- A comment on your previous suggestion: > 2. What could we call such a list? Possible suggestions: > > debian-user-testing (ie a debian-user list for those running testing) > debian-testing-user (ie debian-testing for users instead of developers) > debian-user-woody (it would get out of date to soon..) I don't necessarily think debian-woody-user would get out of date too soon. It depends on what will happen with the 'debian-user' list once Woody is released as stable. When that happens, will the 'debian-user' list become about Woody, or remain being about Potato? If it's about Woody, will another list be created for people who want to discuss Potato? Just because a new version comes out doesn't mean that discussion will cease about the old distribution immediately. I think it would be best to have a list pertaining to each major version of debian. Thus: debian-potato-user debian-woody-user It seems to me that Sid won't be a version by itself, correct? Sid seems to me to be the 'unstable' version of Woody, correct? > My favourite is debian-user-testing, because debian-testing is so low traffic > that it does not need to be 'split'. And I think it's a bit more obvious for > the actual users themselves. I think the name "debian-testing-user" follows the pattern of existing debian list names better than "debian-user-testing". The list will be for 'users' of the distribution 'debian-testing(/unstable)'. Just as debian-user is for 'users' of the distribution 'debian(-stable)'. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, now after having thought about all the above, I believe that: A new list should be created for users of the Woody distribution (which is currently under development in the Woody & Sid (testing & unstable) branches). This list would focus on either: 1. Woody user issues, or 2. Woody and Sid user issues. debian-woody-user Perhaps, also, a list should be created for the users of the Sid (unstable) branch of Woody, to focus strictly on the user issues for Sid, (and specifically not about Woody/testing issues). (Personally, I think this proposal is of secondary importance, and need not be discussed further at this time. If, after the creation of a debian-woody-user list, a strong desire for a debian-sid-user list occurs, then the issue of creating such a list could be worthwhile to discuss.): debian-sid-user Summary: I think a debian-woody-user list, focusing on issues of using Woody (and Sid) is the list that should be created now. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
