O KVM trabalha bem com Windows?

E a interface de gerenciamento dele?

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rola HA com ele?

2009/6/4 Allison Vollmann <allisonv...@yahoo.com.br>

> Bom pro pessoal ai que usa o XenServer ou VMWare.
>
> Tem muita diferenca nos quesitos desempenho/manutencao/disponibilidade
> entre eles e as alternativas livres como o Xen e o KVM, mesmo o XenServer
> ser baremetal, o KVM pelo que vi roda a nivel de kernel, entao tendo uma
> instalacao minima (apenas com o essencial) nao vejo nenhuma desvantagem
> neste aspecto.
>
> Mas como nao utilizei em ambiente de producao nenhuma das ferramentas,
> gostaria da opiniao do pessoal que convive com isso.
>
> Gostei muito do KVM pelo que ja vi, dentro de alguns meses pretendo
> implanta-lo em ambiente de teste, mas como este topico ja esta aberto
> gostaria apenas de saber a opiniao do pessoal em relacao a essas outras
> alternativas comerciais tao faladas.
>
> A[]`s
>
> --- Em *qui, 4/6/09, Rafael Moraes <raf...@bsd.com.br>* escreveu:
>
>
> De: Rafael Moraes <raf...@bsd.com.br>
> Assunto: Re: XenServer!
> Para: "Eduardo Silvestre" <eduardo.silves...@nfsi.pt>
> Cc: "d-u-p" <debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org>, "Fagner Patricio" <
> fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
> Data: Quinta-feira, 4 de Junho de 2009, 15:08
>
>
> apenas windows
>
> 2009/6/4 Eduardo Silvestre 
> <eduardo.silves...@nfsi.pt<http://mc/compose?to=eduardo.silves...@nfsi.pt>
> >
>
>> tem interface para gerir xencenter no debian?
>>
>> ---
>> Eduardo Silvestre
>> nfsi telecom, lda.
>>
>> eduardo.silves...@nfsi.pt<http://mc/compose?to=eduardo.silves...@nfsi.pt>
>> Tel. (+351) 21 949 2300 - Fax (+351) 21 949 2301
>> http://www.nfsi.pt/
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rafael Moraes" 
>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>> >
>> To: "Fagner Patricio" 
>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Cc: "d-u-p" 
>> <debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org<http://mc/compose?to=debian-user-portugu...@lists.debian.org>
>> >
>> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 7:03:00 PM GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland,
>> Portugal
>> Subject: Re: XenServer!
>>
>> eu crio uma maquina como quero e clico com o botao direito e mando criar a
>> template...
>>
>> cara da uma explorada no xencenter...eh tudo muito facil
>>
>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>> >
>>
>>> Como você cria?
>>>
>>>
>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>> >
>>>
>>>> Além das templates que o Xen tem..eu crio as minhas ...
>>>>
>>>> nao conheço nenhum site...
>>>>
>>>> se tiver me avisa :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>> Você usa Virtual Applliance com ele? sabe de algum site com templates?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>> tu pode fazer um script e jogar para as fitas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O Live Motion é um deles!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seria HA, mas ai só em versões pagas tanto Xen como VMWare então
>>>>>>> descarta!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Backup, eu consigo fazer o backup das minhas VM em uma fita LTO?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Quais aspectos da manutenção?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Para mim o mais importante é questão de manuntenção!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pro debian nem precisa...ele ja vem com template Debian ( se vc
>>>>>>>>>> instalou o segundo cd ).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Caso nao, coloque a imagem em uma maquina da rede ( windows ou
>>>>>>>>>> Linux, unix ) e comaprtilhe....
>>>>>>>>>> va em add new storage e adicione o caminho do compartilhamento..ai
>>>>>>>>>> eh so alegria.
>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Flávio Barros 
>>>>>>>>>> <flaviobar...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=flaviobar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Quero instalar como guest o Debian por exemplo. Como devo
>>>>>>>>>>> proceder  ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cara me explica melhor o q vc ta tentando....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> normalmente eu uso o repositorio de ISOs em uma maquina da
>>>>>>>>>>>> rede.....ativo o compartilhamento ( pode ser window$ ou NFS ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> é bem rápido
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Flávio Barros 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <flaviobar...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=flaviobar...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ainda não consegui criar uma vm e instalar o guest via CD ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vc sabe como se faz ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Já li monte de documentação.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XenServer com certeza.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Renato Gomes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <r.gome...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=r.gome...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal, bom dia.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para virtualização, o melhor é o Xen ou o VMWare?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O Xen é diferente do Xenserver...o Server é baremetal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Allison Vollmann 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <allisonv...@yahoo.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=allisonv...@yahoo.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bom, vou entrar como intruso no assunto por apenas ter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> observado de longe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Existem grandes diferencas comparando o XenServer da Citrix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e VMWare com solucoes Livres como o KVM e o Xen (Acho que e 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esse o nome
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo, ele tem alguma relacao com o XenServer da Citrix?).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Como vi que tem um pessoal aqui que usa as versoes pagas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (por consequencia com mais recursos), creio que a maioria das 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diferencas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sejam no quesito manutencao e configuracao, mas gostaria da 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opiniao do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pessoal que realmente conhece e ja utilizou algumas das 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ferramentas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> informadas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A[]`s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- Em *qui, 4/6/09, Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >* escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> De: Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: XenServer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: "Fagner Patricio" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: "Debian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org<http://mc/compose?to=debian-user-portugu...@lists.debian.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data: Quinta-feira, 4 de Junho de 2009, 11:37
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pow no Xen tu coloca quanto servers vc quer, tem Xenmotion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e mais uma infinidade coisas... o VMWare tem troncentos 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> limites...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> da uma olhada no site do xenserver dentro do site da
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> citrix..tem uma comparativo disso ai
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abraços
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acabei de descobrir, HA só na versão paga mesmo, que é
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esse tal de Essencials, na verdade são funções extras...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bom qual seria então a vantagem da versão free do Xen para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a versão Free do VMWare?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mas se você perceber ele deixa criar o Pool de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servidores, na versão Free, qual a sua versão? a minha é a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.0 uptade3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> é que eu só to com um servidor aqui para testar, vão
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chegar mais mas só daqui a dois meses, e eu preciso decidir 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se vou usar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xen ou o VMware ESXi.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Moraes 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <raf...@bsd.com.br<http://mc/compose?to=raf...@bsd.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A antiga enterprise virou free...nesta nao tinha HA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Portanto o HA so pode ser utilizado na versão enterprise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou platinum nova.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O que eu sei é também que a versão Free é a versão
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FULL, mas lguém saber dizer o que é aquilo de Essencials?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Rafael Balbino 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <balb...@act.psi.br<http://mc/compose?to=balb...@act.psi.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>      Olá Amigos da lista,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Me corrijam por favor se eu estiver errado, mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recentemente a versão Enterprise virou Free também não ?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael Balbino
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rafael Moraes escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olá meu amigo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eu uso o XenServer versão Free.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A versão Free é bem completa, mas nao tem todas as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funcionalidades do Enterprise e Platinum.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o Resource pool eu nunca utilizei, mesmo quando usei o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> periodo free da enterprise...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Seria pra usar com HA neh?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unir vários servidores pra controlar de um unico
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ponto..isso memso?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abraço
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2009/6/4 Fagner Patricio 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <fagner.patri...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=fagner.patri...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olá!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguém aqui trabalha com o XenServer da Citrix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gostaria de saber se o Resource Pool Funciona na
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versão gratuita, no site vem dizendo que a versão 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gratuita tem todas as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funcionalidades é verdade?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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