On a side note, here is an apt source line for LTSP packages: deb http://termserv.berlios.de/debian stable main non-free
-- Arthur H. Johnson II Catechist, St John Catholic Church, Davison MI USA Debian GNU/Linux Advocate, Window Maker Advocate President, Genesee County Linux Users Group IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],#debian YIM: arthurjohnson AIM: bytor4232 ICQ: 31770438 On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Tom Allison wrote: > I noticed that the ltsp.org has a series of GPLed debian packages > for use in installing the lstp client/server files necessary. > > I am wondering why these packages have not been incorporated into > the Debian Package library as official packages? > > I asked on the ltsp list and the response was two fold: > > The lstp .deb maintaner was not yet on the Debian Team. > --Why can't someone sponsor him and get it in? > > The ltsp .deb packages would have to be 'non-free' and Debian is > discouraging non-free packages. I guess I don't get it. it's GPLed. > > In any event. Even if there are packages of this type that are made > available to Debian and Debian refuses to acknowledge them directly > or indirectly, Debian is the one who loses. > > Without doing any investigation, it appears that something like the > ltsp.org project is supported by RedHat's RPMs and Suse. There's > extra work involved in finding the Debian packages. > > This would implicate that Debian doesn't have the technical support > base on this project (and others?) and may lead someone to walk away > from using Debian. > > I personally think that Debian is one of the best run and most > intelligent distributions I have seen over the last 6 years. But > little holes like this turn into big problems when people are > evaluating the distributions. I would have trouble convincing > someone that Debian would be a good solution for a K-12 educational > alternative when something that is this K-12 educational > infrastructure friendly is not available. > > I would like to suggest that we either get something like this > incorporated into the Packages or, more importantly, consider an > alternative to the non-free problems that plague a number of > software packages out there that are not in the Debian-proper structure. > > Would it be reasonable to develop a program wherein the Debian > organization identifies project websites which do provide Debian > packages, which, for some reason cannot yet be included into the > Debain Package Tree at this time, however, present a status suitable > to the Debian philosophy (including non-free?), some history of > presence, and a Standard of Quality which is not derogatory to the > overall Quality of the Debian distribution? > These would not have to be listed in the Debian Packages, but merely > have Debian.org provide a space on their website to reference the > other projects (ltsp.org for example) that do provide Debian > Packages which, for some reason or another, can not yet be fully > incorporated (if ever?). > > I think it is valuable for Debian to provide as much accessability > to the software that is coming available. I'm unclear as to the > exact details of the standards which restrict the lstp.org packages > from being incorporated into the Debian Package Tree, but the value > of a project like this should not be overlooked. > > Thank you for letting me rant (a little). I am not trying to flame > anyone, I'm just concerned that we may be missing an opportunity here. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
