2016-09-09 13:36 GMT+02:00 Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net>:

> On Thursday 08 September 2016 19:02:31 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Thu, 08 Sep 2016, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Has anyone an idea of a schedule of when that will put this security
> > > update into the wheezy repo's?
> >
> > https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
> >
> > Please contact the Debian LTS people, and if this fix is not already
> > in the priority queue, you could offer to sponsor the work required or
> > something.
> >
> > > I believe this is why I cannot use the paypal account I just opened.
> >
> > Gene, may I humbly suggest you should get a new box for non-Linux-CNC
> > work, and keep that wheezy box you use for Linux-CNC off the grid so
> > that it doesn't become a liability in the future?
> Liability?  Only if its destroyed on purpose by a malicious update. I
> have a router with dd-wrt reflashed into it.  No back doors.  And it
> stops _all_ the unfunny stuff. And according to the error message I get
> when I run firefox-esr from a terminal, SSL is missing.  But its not, FF
> just can't find it. IMO firefox-esr is a disaster despite the hype.
> > You will be happier in the medium/long term after the investment in
> > the new box pays itself off, Debian jessie should work much better
> > overall for you for desktopish things (i.e. not Linux-CNC), and the
> > rest of us will be happier even sooner because we will have less
> > support requests related to oldstable to attend to[1] ;-)
> >
> > Paypal works just fine with firefox in a standard Debian 8.6 install.
> >
> > [1] Any work done for stable and unstable/testing _usually_ helps a
> > lot more people than work done for oldstable.
> I can appreciate that, but wheezy is supposed to have security support
> until sometime in 2018, but this gradual destruction of a formerly
> working system just to get folks to update smells an awful lot like
> fedora, and that rebuild your system every 30 days got old, very fast,
> so I bailed to mandrake all those years ago.  And now its happening
> again.  All I want is a system that Just Works(TM) and now it isn't.

Fedora work just fine, and you don't need to rebuild anything every 30
days. I use it for years now, because sometimes I want cutting edge

You want too much for free ...

You just need to update your ssl library to be able to use paypal.  So :
 - You upgrade to jessie and use VM to run linux CNC stuff (or the opposite)
 - You pin libnss3 to stretch/unstable in apt preferences (it may or may
not work)
 - You grab the deb src and dpkg-buildpackage by yourself
 - You wait until a fix is available

4 solutions comes to you, choose one and do it ! You don't need to be rude
against people trying to help you.

> Sometime today I'll see if I can figure out how to install the real
> mozilla firefox 48.something tarball.  Maybe even make it use the new
> flashplayer.so, now at major version 23 something. I already have them
> downloaded.
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> --
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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