On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, Kent West wrote:

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Tony Baldwin <tonybald...@gmx.com> wrote:

On 09/19/2016 12:26 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

On 9/19/16 12:20 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

I have always downloaded the latest from wordpress, created a DB  on
my server and basically manually installed the upstream pkg (which I
know is often discouraged here, but if you do it Our Way (ie. the
Debian Way,
aka the Right Way for most stuff), and then ask any questions on
#wordpress on freenode, they get all nasty (I've been banned from the
channel for life!)
I make a new user on the server for each new WP site, and then install
their WP in /home/$user/www . much simpler than having bits of it all
over the machine.
I do the same with dokuwiki installations and other CMS or site
platforms, too, installing from upstream.

That's what I do as well.  For complex software (e.g., WordPress,
Drupal, mailing list managers), I always end up downloading the latest
tarball, unpacking it, and then ./config; make; make test; make
install.  It all just works so much better than relying on out-of-date

If I want to get ambitious, and keep track of things via the package
manager, I use checkinstall.

Miles Fidelman

I like stuff in git repos (like hubzilla, gnu/social, etc) or with its own
built-in updating mechanism, like WP has (dokuwiki has a plugin for that)
to facilitate updating stuff.
At home (as opposed to my remote servers) I tend to install only Debian
pkgs, except for OmegaT my most used work application, which always install
from upstream (ours is often 2 years behind the latest),
and I wish they'd put it on github, or gitorious, or similar.

all tony, all the time

So what I'm hearing is that I should forego using apt/aptitude to install
WordPress, and just install in manually?

Ag, I hate to go that route; I really like having an apt-maintained system.

Is there perhaps a definitive document that explains how WordPress things
are set up in Debian. The /usr/share/wordpress/readme.html starts off by
unpacking the zip file, which tells me that's not the document that
describes The Debian Way. There's no "man wordpress" or "info wordpress".

I don't know anything about wordpress.

But I do know that when I want documentation about package FOO, one
place worth looking is


(Notice the "doc/" element in the path.)

The online docs I have found haven't convinced me that one is more
definitive than the conflicting another, and even if it did, doesn't seem
to have a good explanation of The Debian Way concerning WordPress.

There is also a debian wiki page, which also has not yet been
mentioned, that AFAICT undertakes to describe two methods of


Good luck with your project.

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