Hi.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 08:00:20AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 07:45:08 +0100
> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 19:17:37 -0400
> > Celejar <cele...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 21:09:32 +0200
> > > Alexandre Garreau <galex-...@galex-713.eu> wrote:
> > > 
> >  
> > > > 
> > > > No, they’re not submitted to network effect, Debian is not a social 
> > > > network.  Moreover, Debian is non-lucrative.  Currently nobody can
> > > > get *power* from it.  
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure what you mean by non-lucrative, but even though
> > > there's no money involved, that does not mean that there's no power.
> > > The power to decide what software to include in the distribution and
> > > what to exclude is certainly power. Debian has an elaborate
> > > constitution, with all kinds of rules, and the organization has
> > > considerable power over the distribution. This is similar, in my mind,
> > > to the power that an organization like Facebook has over its network.
> > > 
> > 
> > I think in this context that 'power' means power over the real world,
> > not just within a medium. It is unlikely that Debian can swing an
> > election result. Debian has rules, but not over what people are
> > permitted to discuss.
> 
> I concur completely with your distinction, and I agree that it's an
> important one. The original topic of the conversation, however, was
> Github and friends, and I doubt that Github can swing an election
> result, either.

Github gathers personal information, Bing uses it to influence an
election via search results manipulation. It's real easy if you have the
same owner of both services.

Reco

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