Mark Eichin wrote: > > > To log into X you must have (at least): >
> Note that if we want small, and we've already got perl, we can drop > xrdb, since I've got a minimal perl Xlib (raw perl, no libraries) that > can do an xrdb directly. Then again, we can drop xrdb anyway -- > anything local can read ~/.Xresources, and if you've got remote > clients, then you can install xrdb from the net too. Yes, perl can be dropped unless any installation uses perl script. Perl binary alone takes around 900k in my SGI. > However, this is just for a *minimal* installation. You'd really want > to install a *real* X installation (from CDROM of course - you can get > CDROM drives as low as $80 these days[2].) Yesterday I got a CD rom drive (paid 45 pounds roughly 70 dollars) and a freshly burnt CD of Debian. I spent 3 or 4 hours in the night only finding that the CD is somewhat wrongly recorded. I also lost my WinNT and Win95(I am sure I can recover these though with extra hours). Now I feel really frustrated. As I have pointed out there are always unexpected things like CD burner has errors or the written CD is not correct etc. Or even buggy distribution can be uploaded to a mass production line(as I heard on Debian). It is full of errors. If you are a progrmmer, you will know how unpredictable in computing and programming. It is always important to have all sorts of possibilities. If I can run Perl in X (I mean with many windows and some decent editors and tools), I can manage to make my own installation or whatever. Do I have to develop yet another Linux distribution system with C ???? Because the present systems are unfriendly? If I were just a computer user who wanted to use Linux for some application purposes, I am sure I have backed off by now, saying Linux is a crap exaggerating the frustration. I do not know people who develop Debian distribution are using single or a few text terminal for their programs, but without any basic graphical env(X), I can not or rather would not develop any codes. It is not fun. I really feel the very basic X where you can load multiple windows is a must. No other distribution has organized disks in that way and Debian can be better if it can support X base disks IMHO. I start to feel wonder I have to go back to my Linux FT which was really easy to install. It took less than 30 minutes to have fully functioning UNIX. -- Jong ________________________________________________________________________ >Perl Digest : [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe perl-users' Everything about Perl: http://www.perl.com/perl/index.html Everything about Debian Linux: http://www.debian.org/ *PERL also stands for Protein Engineering Research Language *Linux also stands for Leading InterNet UniX
