On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:43:34PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 08:53:59AM -0600, Ben Burton wrote:
> >
> > All the debate on this yes/no issue I am finding somewhat astounding.. did
> > Branden not make his position quite clear?
> >
> > > Peter Makholm has sussed out what I meant by this. I just want to see
> > > resolution of the issue via a democratic process.
> >
> > He can't answer yes or no because he will take action to remove non-free iff
> > the developer body votes for it. What he promises is a referendum and action
> > according to the result; how can you get clearer than that?
> >
> > (Hmmm.. then again, that's what Howard said about the Australian republic..
> > *grin*)
>
> I think the question Craig is trying to convey is "are you in favor of
> removing non-free?", which is a yes or no question. Branden has not
> stated whether he is in favor of this or not. If he were DPL, his opinion
> could sway favor towards one side or the other, even if he can't
> directly change the outcome.
I've said more on this issue, even recently, than people seem to recall:
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 06:46:01PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote:
> 1. what is your stance(*) on some of the recent controversial topics aka
> flame-wars within debian?
> 2. what action, if any, do you intend to take on these issues?
>
> - non-free archives?
This issue is so controversial that I don't think it can be handled
without a General Resolution. The DPL can issue a GR at any time without
having to get it seconded, but I would not do so on this issue.
I continue to be of two minds about John Goerzen's proposal of many months
ago. My main concern during the whole process was that I felt, whether on
purpose or by accident, the GR system was operating in such a way as to
prevent certain points of view from appearing on the ballot.
But, I'm sure you want a committed viewpoint one way or the other.
If put in the position of making a casting vote to decide the issue, yeah,
I probably would vote to get the non-free archives off of official project
machines. I am, however, uncomfortable with the idea of *completely*
yanking the rug out from underneath it. It needs a BTS, etc. On the
bright side, our current BTS is cracking under the weight and is going to
need to be re-architected soon anyway. So the time is likely getting ripe
for experimentation with the BTS for reasons totally unrelated to some
non-free split.
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