> making something useful for their users have their choice of either > (a) trying to see if they have the votes to shut-out the fanatics, (b) > try to build something useful that uses Debian as a base, and leaves > the insanity behind, or (c) join the Fedora project, or some other > distribution.
I'm going to see how Steve Langasek's proposal fares. If it doesn't fare well after a vote (or appears to not fare well) I'm going to start thinking seriously about coming up with a 'custom debian distribution' based on a subset of packages in testing. What sucks about it is that it takes time away from working on unattended installer things that I wanted to investigate in d-i or build more stuff on autoinstall. Instead I have to compile a good list of packages we use and figure out (from the BTS, hopefully) what major known bugs are going to hurt us and what sort of work its going to take to make our uses livable within the constraints. I'll have to train at least one of our student workers on being, essentially, a Debian Developer. Luckily we have such resources. In any case, I would hope that sometime this summer I can start upgrading machines. It's going to happen. My users will not tolerate another year -- even with backports, the overhead becomes greater the older woody gets. I'm not going to run off to Fedora -- I don't yet believe that they have full technical freedom as a community. However, most of this feeling is based on anecdotal evidence. But yes, pragmatists are still here, for now. -- Scott Dier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KC0OBS http://www.ringworld.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
