* Chris Cheney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040620 19:40]: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 10:59:44AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Are you dumb or a lying? Again: Our users are served good by: > > - a current stable release > > - free software > > > > At the moment, we don't have any of them. Our stable release contains > > items which are non-free, according to your interpretation of the > > social contract (have you ever taken a look to > > /usr/share/info/gcc-295.info.gz on a woody system?). > > > > For someone who lives in the real world, and where time does matter, > > I'm convinced that we should release now, and that also our social > > contract encourages this. You may of course disagree, but please stop > > ad-hominem attacks, and malicious gossip. Thanks.
> You're real world doesn't look like mine at least unless you intend to > release Sarge with nearly 300 RC bugs? By the time all those RC bugs > are fixed we could easily have removed all the non-free software from > Debian main as well... I consider the opinion of the release managers to be a better guide on what blocks the release of sarge than my opinion or a glance at the RC bug count. Please see e.g. Colin Watsons mail on http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/06/msg01086.html | > This is not the only thing holding up sarge. | | It's the biggest, and crucially it's the showstopper with the greatest | uncertainty attached to it. People who've done any release management | know that you need to resolve the items with the greatest uncertainty as | early as possible; it is not possible to plan otherwise. (This is why | there's been no release plan posted lately, because we basically | can't.) Cheers, Andi -- http://home.arcor.de/andreas-barth/ PGP 1024/89FB5CE5 DC F1 85 6D A6 45 9C 0F 3B BE F1 D0 C5 D1 D9 0C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
