On Thu, Oct 04, 2001 at 12:44:23PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Sven wrote: > > > I received a german translation of on of my packages description, and after > > having read it, i communicated with the translator and together we found a > > better translation. Also i did change the english description following to > > this discution, as i noticed some things could be improved there also. > > > So, at least something usefull as come of those mails, altough i agree with > > others that wouldn't know what to do with a japanese or rusian translation. > > > Also, for those who complain, procmail is your friend, ... > > Please, let no one suggest further that procmail is a solution here. This is > tantamount to admitting that these messages *are* equivalent to Spam -- that
A sure, but some consider even replying to both the list and the sender of a mail as spam, while procmail could easily erase the unwanted message if needed, and complain loudly about it, occasionally starting huge threads here and there. Also, i am sure that if those messages that are complained about are filtered in their own mail folder, they would be much less of a hassle, and we would get less complaints, exept naturally for those using slow lines, and even then, these messages are not that huge. A more informative mail subject would help also though. This information is nice to have, but could be send in a more compacted form, maybe in a weekly or so digest. More advanced filtering (based on the language the maintainer speak or so) would be even better, but is more difficult to put in place, i think. > I was among those who argued initially that the maintainer needs to be kept in > the loop, and should therefore receive the translations. But clearly, there > are maintainers who don't share this view, and they are (rightfully) upset Most of them english speaker, aren't they ? > that they have to repeatedly ask, for every new package they upload, to be > excluded from the notifications. For the sake of the DDTS itself, a technical > solution should be found that lets developers opt out if they feel they have > nothing to contribute to the translation process, and that lets everyone get > back to work. Infighting among developers takes the focus away from both free > software and our users, and telling dozens of developers[1] to shove off and > use procmail if they don't like the state of things is just the sort of > reaction that would encourage infighting. Ok, i agree with you on that, i just wanted to give a positive feedback on those mail everyone hated so much ... Friendly, Sven Luther