On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:37:46PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Anthony Towns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 02:09:50PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > >> + | We allow inclusion into etch even if the way we distribute the > >> + | firmware leads to a violation of the license, > > > > Uh, no we won't. > > > > There are claims that the GPL, when applied to "sourceless" firmware, > > doesn't provide permission to redistribute because there's presumably a > > "more preferred" version of the source in existance somewhere. That's > > an *argument* that a violation may exist, not proof that one does. If > > that argument were accepted by Debian, we would not be distributing > > it no matter what GRs there might be, right up to the DFSG and Social > > Contract being entirely scrapped -- it would be *illegal* to distribute > > those works, both for us, for Red Hat, for kernel.org and just about > > everyone else. > > Okay. Since I never read anybody saying it this clearly (in other > words, contradicting Sven when he asserted that the claims were true), I > wasn't aware of that. > > It seems to me as if we might need to phrase the vote in a way that also > makes clear which interpretation we follow. > > >> if the current > >> + | license does not allow modification, or if there is no source > >> + | available. However, we still require that the firmware has a > >> + | license that, in principle, allows distribution (possibly under > >> + | conditions we currently cannot fully meet). > >> What do you think? > > That would make, e.g.: > > + | firmware included in the kernel itself as part of Debian Etch. > + | We allow inclusion into etch even if the current license does > + | not allow modification, or if there are hints that there exists > + | a form more suited for modification than the binary form > + | included in the kernel. However, we still require that the > + | firmware has a license that allows distribution. > > Regards, Frank
I don't like this one, see my reply to Anthony for an example of what i believe we should say :) Friendly, Sven Luther > > > -- > Frank Küster > Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. > Zürich > Debian Developer (teTeX/TeXLive) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
