On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > OTOH, experience shows that enforced addition of new members doesn't > work as one would expect.
What case are you referring to? I don't think it ever happened up to now. In most cases, the additional members have been approved but only by a fraction of the team. That said the supplementary members found their way within the team (thinking both to the supplementary ftpmaster assistants and to weasel for DSA). I agree however that we have to go further and that the assistant status must not become the end of the road for the members who have shown that they can do more and they want to do more. And the full members should encourage the assistants to go down that path... otherwise they might not do the supplementary work that it involves (it's always best to know that one's work is not going to be ignored). > As we are working with volunteers here, there's no real way to enforce a > change in this pattern, so the only option left is constant constructive > criticism with an emphasis on the fact that letting new people in could > solve most issues. It doesn't appear to be enough in all cases. Despite numerous mails, IRC discussion with all DSA members and a real life chat during a dinner with James Troup during last Debconf, the addition of Peter Palfrader came from a decision of Phil Hands and the team as a whole had been unable to take the decision with simple constructive criticism. Thus I believe a reasonable decision by an individual (be it the DPL or one of the team member) should be able to unblock the situation when it's needed. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Le best-seller français mis à jour pour Debian Etch : http://www.ouaza.com/livre/admin-debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

