Russ Allbery dijo [Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 10:23:13AM -0700]: > >> Personally, I'd rather that we not do this. There are other > >> organizations that specialize in this (the FSF, for example), whereas > >> Debian specializes in producing a distribution. > > > That is a head-in-sand attitude. > > Well, that's certainly blunt and honest, but it probably unfortunately > makes it clear that there's no room for discussion if your first reaction > is that negative. I don't think it's any more a head-in-sand attitude > than to expect my neighborhood association to not waste its time on > resolutions about the war in Iraq, regardless of my personal opinions on > the topic. Even if there's someone who lives in the neighborhood who's an > Iraqi veteran.
We, Debian, are often seen as among the groups that most takes care of the Free Software-definig freedoms. Many people will base their stand on a Free Software-ish project according to what we say. It is not the first time this happens. And it won't be the first time that Debian's probably-extremist positions cause (or help in causing) a change for good in another project's policies. Some other people will say we are smoking too much pot and live in a Free and Rosy Cloud. But over and over, those people have seen the proof that our stands do have real effect. So, I fail to see it as outside our scope as you say. > You're personalizing the position in a way that I think is inappropriate. > Debian, insofar as it has a head, is supposed to put that head to the goal > of creating a free software distribution. ...And we distribute things that behave as Free Software, yes. But when those things start misbehaving... Well, we should not look away. Debian _does_ have a head and documented procedures. So, Wouter is proposing going through such a procedure. He is not stating it officially in the name of us all! > The individual members of Debian are quite capable of joining > multiple organizations, including ones who specialize in making > statements about free software as a concept and tackling issues such > as this one. I think it's rather unfair for you to imply that I > have my head in the sand simply because I would prefer to have the > organizations to which I belong that specialize in that sort of > thing doing that work rather than having Debian do it (poorly, since > it's not what Debian is good at). ...Try not to take it as a personal offense. We are also very good on erupting flamewars when they are not needed! :) Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
