Sam Hartman wrote: > Matthew> Josh Triplett <[email protected]> writes: > >> On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 12:22:07PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >> > What's the procedure for removing someone from the technical > >> committee? > >> > >> Someone pointed out to me privately that there's a much easier > >> way of handling this. See the "Maximum term for tech ctte > >> members" thread. Such a proposal would deal with this without > >> singling anyone out and without explicitly censuring any > >> particular actions, and would furthermore establish an ongoing > >> procedure that seems more broadly useful. > > Matthew> I'm not sure encouraging "if you hate Ian, vote for a > Matthew> maximum term for committee members" is very constructive. > > Hi Matthew, I feel that I at least haven't been heard very well when I > read the above and would like to be heard differently. > > I do not hate Ian. I do not think anything Josh has said implies that > Josh hates Ian. > I disagree with some of the actions Ian has chosen to take very > strongly. I believe that they tend to create a community that > discourages a form of compassionate, constructive discussion I value > strongly. > I value that form of discussion strongly enough that I believe it is > appropriate to take steps to exclude people who are not acting with > compassion and respect. Such steps can include talking to those people > and asking them to step back until they are ready, as well as more > formal procedures. > For me, nothing about this involves hate. > I can sometimes really understand a deep hurt that someone is feeling > that motivates them to act in a manner I disagree with. Often, that > understanding is sufficient that I can connect with them and find a > place where we can meet with compassion and respect. > Sometimes, the greatest understanding does not bridge that gap. > > Obviously, I cannot speak for Josh, but I hope I at least am heard > differently than you imply above.
Speaking for myself: I agree completely with Sam's words here. This is not about hate. I simply care about the project and the people involved in it too much to keep accepting a continued pattern of harmful behavior against them. - Josh Triplett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141111023248.GA24450@thin
