Russ Allbery <[email protected]> writes: > Ansgar <[email protected]> writes:
>> So three hypothetical examples: >> - a hypothetical GNOME version that requires a build-time choice >> between `systemd --user` and the traditional session implementation; >> (GNOME can use `systemd --user` already[1], but it's not a build-time >> choice.) I guess elogind could in theory start a `systemd --user` >> instance even when pid-1 is not systemd, but it's probably not >> realistic to expect that to be implemented. > The criteria here under Ian's proposal is stated in point 8, "But such > contributions should not impose nontrivial risks on users of the default > configuration (systemd with Recommends installed)." So it would be a > determination of the GNOME maintainers, appealable to the Technical > Committee, whether using the traditional session implementation would > impose a nontrivial risk to the users of the default configuration. > If the traditional session implementation has RC bugs, point 7 would also > apply and would be a strong argument in favor of switching to systemd > --user. Ah, I think this is making me realize there's a somewhat odd conflict between point 7 and point 8 that I didn't notice. The criteria in point 7 is stronger (the contributed support does not introduce an RC bug) than in point 8 (the contributed change does not impose non-trivial risks on users of the default configuration), and now I'm unsure which would apply here. I think the best approach would be that the point 7 criteria (the patch needs to be applied unless it introduces an RC bug) should apply if the sysvinit support doesn't change behavior substantially under systemd, and the point 8 criteria should apply if it does. So, for instance, changing the packaging to build two versions of the GNOME stack, one requiring systemd and one not, would use the point 7 criteria, but changing the build options for everyone to use the mechanism compatible with non-systemd systems would use the point 8 criteria. But it's not clear to me that Ian's text says this. -- Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
