Joerg Jaspert <[email protected]> writes: > On 17273 March 1977, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
>> Refusing to make a decision is a decision. > We haven't refused to make one. > We haven't been asked for one, even. Don't you think this is getting kind of absurd? I flatly don't believe that you actually believe that. There is literally no way that you could think, after all of this discussion, that you haven't been asked for a decision or what that decision is about. *As soon as* you indicated that there was some willingness to move your position, people reinvested substantial effort into trying to have that discussion, including multiple replies and attempted discussion with Ansgar despite his quite open hostility earlier in this discussion. You said at that time, and I am quoting from your message in <[email protected]>: | I would ask you to wait a bit more before continuing with a GR (in the | term of days, not months), at least some time, but do whatever you feel. That was ten days ago. Sean did exactly what you asked. When that conversation stopped, entirely on the FTP master side, people waited and then Sean you to provide some indication of whether you were still considering the options. There wasn't a response. This process is utterly exhausting. You are asking people to prolong it even further. You have to give them *something* that justifies doing that if you expect them to agree, at least a message saying that there's a lot of material to digest and providing some rough timeline. You can't ask people to wait days but not weeks for a GR, stop responding to them, and then get angry at them for doing what you asked and moving forward when you didn't reply further. Or, well, you *can*, but it doesn't seem justified to me. I know people are reluctant to go to a GR for these types of decisions, but at some point there *has to be an end*. Otherwise, it's just a form of decision by attrition: exhaust people until they no longer care whether their request is approved or not, or possibly about Debian at all. If you think there's something more to discuss that would help you change your mind, the GR isn't happening tomorrow. But there has to be an end in sight. Doing things in Debian cannot be an endless series of procedural hoops, beyond which is simply more procedural hoops. -- Russ Allbery ([email protected]) <https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>
