On Thu, Jul 23, 2026 at 09:12:44PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
My points in this subthread are mainly that: 1) I don't think that a GR is the correct place to do detailed technical design [of safety nets]; 2) I think that it's better to ensure that people feel responsible, and to let them decide which safety nets are necessary for them, rather than arbitrarily decide that 'git commit' or 'git push' should be excluded from the scope of agents.
I have never written a ballot for a GR, but I would be willing to ask the AI assistant of my choice to draft a ballot basically saying
"Debian does not endorse the arbitrary use of generative AI tools, but we acknowledge that the responsible use of generative Ai significantly can speed up development significantly. Since we want our project members to spend their volunteer time making sense, we understand that people might be willing to use such tools. We do, however, expect that project members using generative AI will always review the output of their tools and not blindly use those results in their Debian work. We explicitly do not prejudice the problem of whether the output of generative Ai is copyrightable or not which is still being discussed on the legal side of the world, and delegate those decisions to the conscience and responsibility of our individual project members."
(and of course review the output before submitting the ballot).
Which skill am I giving up by asking my agent to 'git commit && git push' for me, instead of doing it manually?
Note that for 'git push', my personal safety net would agree with you (my agent cannot 'git push' because it cannot access the required credentials). For 'git commit' however, I routinely ask my agent to 'git commit', and find it very useful: after several interactions to design a specific change, the agent is usually in a very good position to write a detailed commit message capturing the various design choices that were made during the discussion (while humans tend to be more lazy and write shorter commit messages). And I don't see what I would gain (except potential errors) from asking the agent to generate a commit message, and then commit myself manually.
+1. Fully agreed. Greetings Marc -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | "I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Leimen, Germany | lose things." Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 6224 1600421
