On Tuesday, July 28, 2026 7:21:43 PM Mountain Standard Time Matthias Urlichs 
wrote:
> On 28.07.26 22:25, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> 
> > I take this to mean that you agree that the term is (somewhat) offensive.
> >
> >
> 
> Possibly, but so are a lot of other words.
> 
> I reserve CoC-violation levels of offensiveness for words that are more 
> crassly inappropriate and/or (directly or indirectly) target other 
> participants of the discussion in question.
> 
> 
> > I disagree with the argument that we need to use offensive terms to 
respond
> > to
> arguments or actions we disagree with.  The best way to deal with such
> > behavior and arguments is to use language which is precise but not
> > offensive.
> 
> We don't need them *if* there are inoffensive equivalents that carry 
> roughly the same meaning. This is difficult here, as the act of 
> confidently emitting confidently-factual utter nonsense is in itself 
> offensive, in the military sense of the word: the target is, ultimately, 
> reasoned discourse itself.

Mathias,

Please refrain from using *any* foul language on Debian’s mailing lists.  It 
is never appropriate and it is *never* necessary.

"Do not use foul language; besides, some people receive the lists via packet 
radio, where swearing is illegal.”

https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

-- 
Soren Stoutner
[email protected]

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