On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 08:45:11PM -0300, Fabricio Cannini Flores wrote: > It's good to see that you girls want to > "walk with your own legs" (as we say in Brasil), > && as i'm sure that this is not a "girls only" > project, > ya can't count on me to make it happen.
Well, I certainly hope that people don't feel participation in working to remove the problems that make there be few women involved in Debian should be restricted to women. I think a distinction needs to be drawn between *encouraging* women in Debian, and *being* women in Debian. On the one hand this means that, where appropriate, men should be involved equally with women in working towards a proper balance of men and women in Debian. On the other hand, it means that simply being women on a list, or an IRC channel, isn't necessarily helping us move towards our goals. On both this list and the #debian-women IRC channel I think we should bear in mind the big challenges we discussed at DebConf (some of which are mentioned as the reasons for this list at http://bugs.debian.org/252171), and begin to move forward on them, rather than falling into the easier option of creating a kind of ghetto for Debian-sympathetic women. It's *possible* that in the short/medium term, some kind of 'safe-haven' is needed, but that's not really what this list was created for. > PS: cheeks = geeks+chicks :-D (I know Fabricio was just joking, but it's a bit offensive to imply that women need some special term, as if they can't just be 'geeks' because they're not men.) -- Moray
