On Wednesday 04 August 2004 11:33 pm, Steve Langasek wrote: > I'm sure the motivation varies quite a bit from developer to developer. > It almost sounds like you're wanting people here to sell you on becoming > a DD, which I can't figure out. I would expect anyone who's interested > in contributing to Debian in any capacity to be able to understand why > someone might be interested in contributing as a developer; and if > you're not already interested in contributing to Debian, then I don't > understand why you're on this list -- whose purpose, as I understood it, > was to help women get involved in Debian.
What I'm hearing in this thread is folks who are already interested in participating at various levels have heard a lot of negative stories, and don't fully understand the process. Of course these are things that Debian-Women is going to address. But you almost make it sound like "if you really want in, you should be prepared to jump through any hoops." That's not realistic. > Debian is not exactly out in the streets running a membership drive. > The whole reason people complain so much about the NM process is that > there's a terrible backlog on the administrative side of things; so if > you're not interested in becoming a DD, I don't think anyone's going to > be bothered by that. AIUI, this list is here to provide a more > hospitable learning environment for women who already have intrinsic > motivation to get involved. If you don't already have that motivation, > I don't think there's much anyone here can do to give it to you. 'Why bother' is a perfectly valid question. People are here because they are interested, but no one in their right mind is going to sign on to climb every mountain and cross every stream. A lot of the "why bother" type questions have already been answered in this thread, and that's been helpful.There are a lot of widespread negative perceptions about what it takes to become a Debian supporter at any level. I've been hearing tales for years. Whether Debian is "recruiting" or not is beside the point; the point is, how many interested supporters are discouraged before they even get close? Dismissing it as a lack of motivation misses the real problem. And again, this is something that D-W can help with. "What's in it for me" is also a valid question, and this is a good place to ask these kinds of questions. It's just not good enough to say 'either you want to or you don't'. I appreciate all the good information in this thread. I think it would make a lovely FAQ. (yes, I'm volunteering to help write it) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Carla Schroder this message brought to you by Libranet 2.8 and Kmail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
