On 2004-08-15 12:59:03 +0100 Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
It sometimes helps to be aware of the latter more subtle communication
channels (except if one deliberately wants to troll and start a
flamewar -- I'm not accusing you of doing this, BTW ;)
OK, but if I am writing my usual clear native English, there is little
or nothing that I can do to avoid misinterpretation of my messages
without second-guessing everyone's reactions. That's clearly not
possible, so I ask for some of the claimed tolerance of the group. In
any case, my attitude here is not really different to on other debian
lists and it has rarely caused trouble there. The few cases that I am
aware of it causing trouble with other debian lists, the people
concerned actually TELL ME what the problem was, so it can be dealt
with by one, other or both of us. Here, I just flames: heat and no
light.
Given a lot of the subscribers to debian-women seem to think debian
unfriendly, I have started to wonder whether there is really any
problem with debian, or it's just intolerance of the multicultural
reality that debian developers present. From a previous email on this
topic:
[QUOTE]
It would be inaccurate to say that this is a particular debian
problem. In any large enough cross-cultural group, you probably have
someone who offends you a bit. A strength of internet collaboration is
the cross-cultural collaboration, but it's also a weakness. We can set
up subculture groups to cope with this, like debian-uk, and we do. I
don't think "women" is a culture, though. If you want to have a debian
group with particular cultural norms, then do that. I think using
"women" as a short description for it would be a horribly sexist move,
don't you?
Trying to make the entire project a monoculture is unrealistic, so
let's find ways to deal with it. Whether that means we have to permit
sexism is an interesting question that I don't answer yet.
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